where is the original topic? should we roll back to that topic, or it is awated for a week or two. if anyone of us wish to start a group, i think, he or she can start and inform the list. thanks.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chetan Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on > No sir, though, you have not proven your point at all, but i still think > personal comments should be avoided, If i like, i can start to think that > earth is flat and nobody will object it as long as i don't argue that > earth > is really flat and try to convince others to believe the same. But if i > decide that i will keep on insisting my view point till all persons in the > world agree that earth is flat, this will not work at all. > Still, i am not able to understand why sexual harassment of Blind women is > beyond the scope of this list. When we discuss each and every problem > faced > by VIs then why to exclude this one? Are we selfish enough to think that > since we majority of male will not face this problem therefore it is off > topic? Now, i realize why one of our friend, Rajesh Parakh went so far to > put forward his thoughts. > > Regards, > > Chetan Sharma > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 7:54 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on > > >>I have proved my point beyond doubt. >> These personal remarks in no way going to either hurt me nor I would like >> that I should reciprocate you in this public foray. >> Who is a disgrace to whom could be proved by reasons and deeds! >> >> But here it is not in my agenda of discussion! >> these personal remarks certainly could put you in trouble. >> Laws regarding defamation are very strong. >> In case I file a suit against you would have to deposit your passport and >> visit for attending the courts here. >> But rest assured I am not going to do any of such thing. >> With care and concern, >> Vip >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 8:15 AM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on >> >> >>> That's indeed very true. But my another concern is that those poor >>> students >>> who have to listen to similar things in their class room and it can >>> actually >>> give a bad name to visually impaired community. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Taraprakash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; >>> <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 9:12 AM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on >>> >>> >>>> Dear sir. Talking about sex and sexual harassment are two different >>>> things. >>>> If the mail I am responding to was written by a college lecturer, I am >>>> afraid, we can't stop this evil. You really need a refresher course for >>>> social and gender sensitization. >>>> Good luck >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 10:51 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on >>>> >>>> >>>>> At least my friends have realized that this topic is a deviation from >>>>> the >>>>> central focus of this group. >>>>> I hope in future they would find a legitimate forum to raise such >>>>> issues. >>>>> As far as my friend who suggested that this issue could be raised on a >>>>> group >>>>> called dreams and romance. I don't think he made any invaluable >>>>> suggestion. >>>>> The issue of sexual harassment is a love crime it could always be >>>>> dealt >>>>> on >>>>> such forums. If we could discuss issues arising out of virus and >>>>> malwares >>>>> on this list related to technology. Than why not such maladies be >>>>> discussed >>>>> in the pertinent list. It is a crime related to romance and emotions. >>>>> So >>>>> its >>>>> remedy could always be sought on such list. Where people should >>>>> understand >>>>> the value of some one's emotions. >>>>> Discussing sex is not a crime rather as Freud puts it is the motive >>>>> force >>>>> in >>>>> guiding human behavior whether professional or otherwise. >>>>> In this list we can discuss cyber crimes not crimes related to sex. >>>>> The discussion should be conclusive only when every body is convinced >>>>> about >>>>> certain things which are related to his argument and presumptions. >>>>> It is always good to argue only healthy arguments could lead us >>>>> towards >>>>> a >>>>> rational approach in life! >>>>> I would keep on writing till you people are convinced that law has its >>>>> on >>>>> importance. No one could let himself be convinced that he or she is >>>>> above >>>>> law! >>>>> With regards, >>>>> Vip >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "P. Subramani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 12:40 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> What is wrong in discussing issues of sexual harassment particularly >>>>>> those >>>>>> raised Smirthi Singh? Although our group is for discussing >>>>>> accessibility, >>>>>> once a while there could be a deviation. This topic does really >>>>>> concern >>>>>> all >>>>>> of us. In any group for that matter, there will be some deviation of >>>>>> topics >>>>>> sometimes. So why don't accept and go on rather than otherwise. >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> To: "Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; >>>>>> <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 1:08 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Members, I have personally written to the moderator on this >>>>>>> issue. >>>>>>> So >>>>>>> could we wait until a decision is made on this? Please....... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 11:52 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I am putting the things in clear words again! Emphasis added it is >>>>>>>>not >>>>>>>>a >>>>>>>> question of discussing matters pertaining to sexual harassment or >>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>> thing >>>>>>>> else and their relevance for VCs. Question is since we have >>>>>>>> disowned >>>>>>>> several >>>>>>>> members from this list already. Why to just pick and choose. It is >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> known >>>>>>>> fact that this group is related to issues arising out of >>>>>>>> accessibility >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> otherwise. its not that we are that we are not concerned about >>>>>>>> these >>>>>>>> social >>>>>>>> issues. But again the question is, is it a proper forum to rays >>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>> issues? >>>>>>>> Though our parliament is competant to make laws for whole of the >>>>>>>> territory >>>>>>>> of india. But it can not alter the basic structure of our >>>>>>>> consitution. >>>>>>>> Likewise, the basic structure of this group here is to discuss >>>>>>>> issues >>>>>>>> related to accessibility. >>>>>>>> Then, a bonafide plaint is: Each member shal follow these guide >>>>>>>> lines >>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>> is law abiding enough. >>>>>>>> If you want to flout with existing laws than law would take its own >>>>>>>> course!! >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> Vip >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>>>>>>> changes, >>>>>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>>>>>> changes, >>>>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>>> >>>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>>> >>>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>> >>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please visit the list home page at >>>> >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> -- >> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.8/455 - Release Date: 9/22/2006 >> > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > DISCLAIMER: The Information transmitted in this email is solely for the addressee. 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