Actually this problem needs to be reported to freedom Scientific. Turnining off virtual cursor is alright but say if you have to copy 2 or 3 paras then you have to delete the entire unwanted stuff. Rohit m ----- Original Message ----- From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
> Hi Harish > > Thank you for telling me about INS+Z. I din't know that Jaws had this > feature of actually turning the virtual PC cursor off. > > For your success > Syed Imran > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Harish Kotian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:27 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. > > >> Hi Syed >> A simpler way is to close the virtual mode by pressing Insert + z. >> Thereafter ctrl + a and Ctrl+c should also work as it is not picked from >> the >> virtual buffer. >> Harish. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:23 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. >> >> >>> Hi Moiz >>> >>> Your issue really interests me and kindles my curiocity. Are you running >>> Windows XP? If not, no problem. >>> Just try this and let us know >>> >>> 1. Login to the site where you want to copy the journals from and quit >>> Jaws. >>> 2. Open run diolog box (Windows+R) and type narrator then push enter >>> You should hear an old man speaking. This is called "Narrator". It is a >>> screen-reading software comes with Windows XP. >>> 3. Using Alt+TAB, move to your internet explorer window which you >>> already >>> have opened >>> Making sure that your Jaws is inactive, >>> 4. Press ctrl +A and CTRL+C >>> 5. Start Jaws and quit Narrator. >>> 6. Now paste it in Microsoft Word and let us know the result. >>> I think you can try repairing Microsoft Internet Explorer if it doesn't >>> work >>> Meanwhile, It would be bit easier if we were to know the website your >>> collecting the journals from. Is it www.thehindu.com? >>> >>> For your success >>> Syed Imran >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:34 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. >>> >>> >>>> Hello sir. >>>> >>>> Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. >>>> Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to >>>> exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the >>>> journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening. >>>> Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this >>>> is what I did but the thing is not getting selected. >>>> Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what. >>>> I'm clueless. >>>> Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was >>>> said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any >>>> difference? >>>> Moiz. >>>> >>>> Message: 11 >>>> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530 >>>> From: "Syed Imran" < >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. >>>> To: < >>>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>> >>>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >>>> reply-type=original >>>> >>>> Hello Moiz and my dear list members, >>>> >>>> This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any >>>> data >>>> from web pages in its original format including tables and hyperlinks. >>>> I >>>> assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy >>>> the >>>> exact data appearing on the screen. I further make myself clear to you >>>> that >>>> the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I >>>> hope >>>> you >>>> don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail >>>> carefully. >>>> Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious >>>> technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web >>>> documents >>>> accessible by using something called "Virtual PC cursor". The virtual >>>> PC >>>> cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, >>>> links, >>>> formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called >>>> "Virtualising". Virtualising includes finding out the different >>>> elements >>>> on >>>> a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a >>>> seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a >>>> sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand >>>> by >>>> an >>>> example. >>>> I have given a paragraph in 2 different illustrations as to show how >>>> exactly >>>> a paragraph with links might appear on the screen and how Jaws reads >>>> for >>>> us. >>>> I think it is necessary for us to know how virtual viewer works, to >>>> understand why line breaks appear when we copy any data from Internet >>>> explorer >>>> >>>> I) Illustration 1 How does a web page appear on the screen? (not >>>> virtualised) >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: >>>> >>>> Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The >>>> fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough >>>> salt >>>> is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices >>>> are >>>> added. The pickle >>>> are stored in a LINK dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to >>>> stir >>>> and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon >>>> is >>>> used. >>>> >>>> In this illustration, you can observe jaws saying "Link" in the middle >>>> of >>>> the line. I think this is how a "link" element appears on the screen. >>>> But whenever Jaws encounters any links in a web page, it breaks the >>>> line >>>> to >>>> present them in a separate line as to make more accessible and also to >>>> an >>>> extent, save the time of the readers. Let me try to give an idea about >>>> the >>>> same in the 2nd illustration: >>>> ii) Illustration 2 How does Jaws virtualise the content? (virtualised) >>>> >>>> The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: >>>> >>>> Some >>>> LINK fruits and >>>> LINK vegetables >>>> preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is >>>> cut >>>> into pieces and enough salt >>>> is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. >>>> LINK Oil >>>> and >>>> LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a >>>> Link dry jar >>>> with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from >>>> the >>>> jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is used. >>>> >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> So this is how Jaws arranges the data in the web page after >>>> virtualising. >>>> However, when you copy this text to Microsoft Word, you will observe >>>> the >>>> text broken something like this: >>>> >>>> Some >>>> fruits and >>>> vegetables >>>> Instead of: >>>> Some fruits and vegetables >>>> We can surely remove the line breaks by pressing CTRL+downarrow and >>>> then >>>> back space followed by space bar as Vetry said, but it takes lot of >>>> time. >>>> Especially the lengthy documents. So when you want to copy anything >>>> from >>>> internet explorer, don't use selecting keys like Shift+downarrow, or >>>> ctrl+A >>>> to select the text. follow these simple steps exactly to copy the exact >>>> information without line or page breaks. >>>> >>>> 1. Open the web page from which you want to copy >>>> >>>> 2. Press Alt+E to pull down edit menu. >>>> >>>> 3. Choose "Select all," by pressing A. >>>> We can't press CTRL+A directly instead of pulling down edit menu >>>> because >>>> Jaws will select from its virtual buffer. And I think Moiz, this could >>>> be >>>> the cause of your problem. >>>> >>>> 4. Again pull down the edit menu (Alt E) and choose copy by pressing C. >>>> Now what actually happens is that when you select all and copy from the >>>> edit >>>> menu, the data gets directly copied from Internet explorer and not from >>>> Jaws >>>> virtual buffer. >>>> >>>> 5. Open Microsoft word with a new document. >>>> >>>> 6. Paste whatever is copied from internet. >>>> This will paste the entire web page in your new documents including >>>> pictures, tables, links etc. >>>> >>>> 7. Keep whatever you want and delete unnecessary stuff. >>>> >>>> Some tips: >>>> >>>> 1. If you don't want pictures, tables and links, then paste it in >>>> notepad >>>> and then copy it to Microsoft word >>>> >>>> 2. However if you want tables, then paste it in wordpad and after >>>> selecting >>>> the pasted text, copy it to Microsoft word. >>>> >>>> 3. If you suspect that there are hyperlinks still in the edited >>>> document, >>>> press CTRL+A and press CTRL+SHIFT+F9 to clear the hyperlink attribute >>>> from >>>> the entire document. >>>> >>>> I am still searching for some easier way to copy from web pages and >>>> will >>>> be >>>> thankful if anyone could help in this regard. >>>> >>>> For your success >>>> >>>> Syed Imran >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please visit the list home page at >>>> >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. 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