Hello Ashwani, As far as my knowledge goes, I think She takes money from those candidate who are selected by her consultancy. Please correct me if i'm rong. Regards Dheeraj ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ashwani Jassal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Chetan Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce - South Delhi
Hi friends I want to add something here that she hasn't taken any money from the candidate who has been selected through this channel. I think we should be united at this front rather then giving different statements everyday. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chetan Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:51 HAPPY Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce - South Delhi That's well said! I would like to add one more point to this discussion, if we suspect the behavioral pattern of consultancy firms then why they will give so much of publicity to the existence of a vacancy? Coruption and secrecy always live side-by-side. Finding A Blind or disabled candidate who can pay them is not gigantic task. Don't we need some introspection? Believe me, It is easier to raise doubts than arranging a well paid job for a disabled on! ----- Original Message ----- From: "rajesh asudani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce - South Delhi That is precisely the point. Advertisement in Hindustan times proves my point about fair norms of recruitment. Now, if in addition to this, the assistance of recruitment firm is sought, and it forwards a notice to all the interested/deserving, which is normally not done by financially motivated firms who offer candidates from their already existing clients, why should it be an eyesore to those who are well placed and perhaps oblivious of never ending struggle put up by those in search of livelihood plagued with a disability. Let us not forget the hard facts of life like: 1. Any so-called public advertisement is necessarily confined to a single local or at best national paper. 2. HR firms, as a rule, are financially motivated and offer their existing clients and never go out of the way to acquaint the eligible/desirable disabled candidates. 3. Legal hair splitting serves no purpose, and believe my friends, it is not our cup of tea to fight legal battles for every deviation from the norm, which incidentally in this case does not seem to have happened. 4. The beneficiaries of any assistance offered need not at all be subservient to the person offering the benefit, however, they also should not forfeit dignity while raising some issues or seeking clarifications or offering suggestions. Regards Rajesh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Prashant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce - South Delhi Hello Accessindia I have checked my mail after a while & I am shocked to see the response to my forwarded message. I had forwarded this message hoping that it might benifit someone; some eligible candidates will get information about a job opening. However, the response of some members has been extremely disappointing. Anubhuti has done great work in the last year or so. Ask those who have got employment in companies like IBM, jobs which they would have never got themselves. As it is there aren't enough employment opportunities for us and there are even fewer agencies which are doing meaningful work for promoting employability of VI. Our group has certainly discouraged Anubhuti who has left a bright career with GE to work for visually impaired persons. No wonder why our mailing list is losing readers day by day. Prashant BTW: This opening was advertised earlier in Hindustan Times. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rahul Kelapure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce - South Delhi hi friends i dont understand why we r wasting our energy on such paty issues as this. first of all we should understand that ultimately some of us is going to get the benifits through employment, how many conseltency firms even consider pwds for placement? further more it is just the normal practice that placement agencies do not genrally disclose their clients name. anubhuti is trying to convince the people and follow the potential employers for placement of pwds. in the process if she earns some money whats wrong in that? she would also need to run her office. and otherwise also she is giving us proffessional service and profits if earn is very wel within the rules of the genral practices of the semelar nature, friends ultimately none other than us will b at loosing side. those who r rasing objections, r they the needy or elegible persons? why did u not write ur objections privately? why dont u want to c the positive side of it is it nesecery to look for faults always? since anubhuti has gave an answer which is satisfactory to a large extent as i feel we should close the argument as their r so many more important matters to b discussed on this forum. this group is ment to b helpful for all of us so pls my friends do not make this forum a grave yard for our selves. let this forum b problem solving forum and not problem creater. On 6/10/07, Viraj Kafle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello sir, > > Just wondering how you don't see any fault in such a notice. In the first > place, can we even call it an advertisement? No college name has been > mentioned and one wonders whether the college even advertised a post! One > has every reason to assume that it is nothing but some sort of hobnobbing > between the institution and the consultancy. What procedure can one expect > from such a non-transparent formula that has been laid out in this notice? > And, if we dismiss this issue as an unnecessary one, will it be really > those > eligible candidates who want employment and financial independence who > will > reap the benifit, Or those select few who are probably the favoured ones > of > such a hobnobbing? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Subramani L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 3:18 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce - > South Delhi > > > Friends: > > Let me not be a part of this argument, but finish with a few points I need > to add. > > We must understand that employment of the disabled is important and only a > very few agencies come to our support in this crucial issue. As someone > from > the media, who also know a bit about how professional recruiters work, I > don't find any faults with the way this job advertisement was placed. As > is > mentioned, there are well set out procedures to be followed and we can't > find fault with such procedures. Imagine who are the losers in this > unnecessary issue? Certainly not the very well placed amongst us, but > those > who are searching for employment and a decent money and financial > independence. I think we have missed to provide such an opportunity to > such > members. > > Subramani > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anubhuti > Mittal > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 11:24 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce - > South Delhi > > *********************** > No virus was detected in the attachment no filename > > Your mail has been scanned by InterScan. > ***********-*********** > > > Dear Members ... > > Pardon me for marking this mail to all ....but I thought there may be > people who would have similar questions , hence, it was important to reach > out to all . > With my limited intelligence levels , I am unable to understand the > motive > behind the issues raised by the more enlightened members of this forum > ....They say > > a) "This is the third time such a vacancy has been posted .....even > subjects are more or less the same." ...... Is the number of times a > vacancy is posted an issue ? > > b) "shocking to realise the utter lack of transparency in such notices" > ... we have a standard process of releasing / advertising vacancies and do > not differentiate between private /public/NGO/self employment or any such > category . If someone has a problem with our processes, too bad ..we can't > help it . > > c) "Nor do i see any logic whatsoever behind the manner in which the > Consultancy, in these cases, is insisting on being a mediator between the > college and the applicants." ....The logic my friend, is very simple... to > reach out to as many eligible candidates as possible, so that they get the > benefit ... no hidden motive ... probably you missed this very obvious > logic because you were busy trying to figure out a more ulterior / > clandestine logic where none existed . > > d) "In a job like this, needless to say, we have a well laid out > procedure > in which the institution advertises and the applicants apply and appear > for > the interview, rather than sending his/her resumés to any NGO or > consultancy." . Nowhere in the email have I asked candidates not to send > their candidature against similar vacancies advertised in other sources > and > route their CVs only to us. The institutes know better than us and I know > for a fact , are advertising as per the requirements etc .... but I see no > harm in case they are trying to increase the # of relevant resumes against > an open position . > > I am amazed and appalled at the level of arguments raised ... it is > quite > painful to note that we have people within our community who miss the > bigger > picture and insist on spending time and energy on irrelevant and petty > issues Everyone has the right to put their point across ... but isnt it > possible to do so in the manner of a healthy discussion rather than > presuming foul play and documenting accusations ...We do not claim to be > doing anything great ... our efforts are at a very small scale .. the idea > is only and only to contribute to the cause of employability of people > with > disabilities. > > I refuse to be part of any forum which has members with such petty , > parochial outlook ....and am, hence , withdrawing with immediate effect . > > Wishing You All the Very Best > Regards > Anubhuti > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Ashwani Jassal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes sir > I am also agree with you. This kind of act has been taken place prior to > this. one appointment has been made in the Gargi college through this > mean. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dr. Vipin Malhotra" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 8:50 HAPPS > Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce - > South Delhi > > > I am also really concerned. Why not to have > transparency? The job is not > related to any private sector. > Vip > > > Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra > President, > Delhi University Physically Challenged Teachers' > Association (DUPHCHTA), > Reader, > Deptt. of Political Science, Sri Aurobindo College, > Delhi University > > Mobile: +91-9868-177-335. > Email: > > Skype Id. vipin.malhotra > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Viraj Kafle" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 8:08 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - > English,Hindi and Commerce - > South Delhi > > > > It is I guess for the third time a notice like this > has been posted in > > Access India. Everytime it is mentioned that some > "prominent" college > > is looking for employers, but no college name has > been given. > > Interestingly, everytime the college happens to be > in South Delhi and, > > if my memory serves me right, even subjects are more > or less the same. > > > > While it is great to know that there are NGOs and > Consultancies > > devoted to the cause and requirements of the > visually challenged > > people, it is, however, shocking to realise the > utter lack of > > transparency in such notices. Given the fact that > the job is not that > > of the corporate sector, I don't see any reason for > not mentioning the > > college name or for not giving the advertisement in > full detail, as > > they are supposed to be given. Nor do i see any > logic whatsoever > > behind the manner in which the Consultancy, in these > cases, is > > insisting on being a mediator between the college > and the applicants. > > In a job like this, needless to say, we have a well > laid out procedure > > in which the institution advertises and the > applicants apply and > > appear for the interview, rather than sending > his/her resumés to any > > NGO or consultancy. > > > > > > > > On 6/8/07, Prashant > wrote: > >> > >> Prashant Ranjan Verma > >> Project Manager > >> National Association for the Blind > >> Sec-5, R.K. Puram, New Delhi- 22 India > >> Website: www.nabdelhi.org > >> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Office Phone: +91 11 26102944 > >> > >> International Trainer for DAISY DTB Production > >> Moderator DFAResource mailing list > >> www.daisy-for-all.org > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Anubhuti Mittal > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ; > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> ; > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ; > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> ; > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> ; > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ; > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > viue ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> ; > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 1:20 PM > >> Subject: VACANCY - Lecturers - English, Hindi and > Commerce - South Delhi > >> > >> > >> Our Client, a prominent College ( affiliated > to Delhi University ) > >> in > >> South Delhi is urgently looking for lecturers in > English, Hindi and > >> Commerce > >> > >> Minimum Eligibility Criteria - MA with UGC Net > qualified or PhD or > >> Mphil > >> Degree Holder > >> > >> Disability - All types of physical disabiliies > are welcome > >> > >> Salary - As per UGC norms > >> > >> Interested candidates should send out their > detailed CVs immediately to > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] and can also get in touch with > me at +91-9311607754 > >> in > >> case of any queries etc > >> > >> Thanks > >> Anubhuti > >> www.anubhuti.biz > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Thanks > >> Anubhuti > >> +91-9311607754 > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Thanks > >> Anubhuti > >> +91-9311607754 > >> To unsubscribe send a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> with > >> the subject unsubscribe. > >> > >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make > any other changes, > >> please > >> visit the list home page at > >> > >> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > >> > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with the subject unsubscribe. > > > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make > any other changes, > > please visit the list home page at > > > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ > Sick sense of humor? 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