Hey George sir,

I completely agree but my main concern is the denial towards embracing the change by those who are teck literate.

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On December 7, 2016 7:11:32 AM "George Abraham" <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote:

Ajay,

The point is well made. But the point to be noted is that millions of blind people in India are not computer/tech literate. Most banking facilities are inaccessible and many banks still do not easily provide banking facilities to blind people. Alongside pushing the cashless system, it is important to empower the blind individual, and make accessible the tools of the cashless economy and banks have to start engaging with blind customers. The switch is not quite that simple. This cashless economy makes it all the more critical that Digital India becomes accessible.

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George


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ajay Minocha
Sent: 06 December 2016 23:54
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online payments is tough call

Hi sir,

Let’s not debate on the advantages and disadvantages of cash and
without cash payment systems. As an academician, it’s your
responsibility to see the positive side of the fast and ever-changing
society and impart that knowledge to your students. I still remember
that example shared on our own list regarding the introduction of
computers in government organisations. Though there are people who are
happy to have a free lunch at their workplace but there also exists a
bunch of individuals who have achieved spectacular growth in their
careers using the same technology. Go to the office environment of
20/25 years ago and you wouldn’t be able to imagine a blind person at
a post higher than a typist/ telephone operator. According to me,
every big change comes with a pain but the pain is worth it at the
end. I have no intentions of arguing with a senior member but as a
list member I feel that a right message must be given to the younger
generation who considers this list to be the primary source of
information.

Regards,
Ajay


On 12/6/16, Chandrashekhar Kulkarni <kulkarni.chandr...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear list memberss,
A very interesting and close to heart topic in the present
circumstances. According to me the problem is more severe for totally
blind persons. Today there is a loud cry for going in for paperless
currency, but has the government really thought about the needs of
differently abled persons or the Hon. Prime Minister and his ministry
really think that Divyang persons have a Divyang which takes them out
of any problems? The Government must think of persons like us not only
from the point of view of accessibility but also from safety and
security.
Sincerely,
C. B. Kulkkarni

On 06/12/2016, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok Ajay, you say it is half full and I will say it is half empty. It is
easy
to quote proverbs and sayings, but practical difficulties do not get
solved
by quoting proverbs. You need not accept my views if you disagree with
them.
Just last month 32 lakh debit cards had to be called off. We hear several
cases of the ATM cards getting stuck in the machine. We also hear about
the
people getting robbed through their credit and debit cards. If it is the
case with the sighted people, how difficult it can be for the visually
impaired. Yours, professor Shyam M. sayanekar.
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To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online
payments is tough call


Hi,

It intirely depends on us if we want to see it half empty or half full.

On 12/5/16, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com> wrote:
A very good and factbased article. In fact a lot of discussion on this
issue
should be unddertaken. Further, the risk factor involved in cashless
transactions with regard to the VI also has to be taken into account.
Non-availability of network, the phones getting out of range are also
other
issues. Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
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Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 3:49 PM
Subject: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online
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*http://globalaccessibilitynews.com/2016/11/23/for-millions-of-indians-with-disabilities-making-payments-online-is-tough-call/
<http://globalaccessibilitynews.com/2016/11/23/for-millions-of-indians-with-disabilities-making-payments-online-is-tough-call/>*

*BANGALORE, INDIA:* Booking cabs, buying food and making payments
online
seem like they’re just a swipe and a tap away, but for millions of
Indians
with disabilities, these apps are not designed for them to use.


According to a study conducted by Centre for Internet and Society (CIS)
last month, many of the most-commonly used mobile apps for food
delivery,
online payments, grocery shopping and transportation were not
accessible
to
people with vision disabilities. The study covered 22 apps.

The 2011 census puts the number of people with disabilities in the
country
at 26 million, while advocacy groups say the real figure is closer to
150
million. Last year, India recorded nearly nine billion downloads of
mobile-based applications last year.

“The national policy for universal electronic accessibility says that
all
IT products and services should be accessible. However, the government
is
still unable to implement it. Several government apps are
inaccessible,”
said Nirmita Narasimhan, policy director at CIS. CIS’s survey of some
key
government mobile based applications like My Gov, EPathshala and Prime
Minister Narendra Modi’s official app found them to be severely
lacking.
The illiterate, aged and those not proficient in English would also
struggle with the apps, the study found. The guidelines for government
websites laid out accessibility standards in 2009. The 2013 national
policy
on universal electronic accessibility clearly upholds equal rights
“ensuring that accessibility standards and guidelines and universal
design
concepts are adopted and adhered to.”

However, most commonly-used apps fail to follow this. All 22 of the
apps
studied were privately owned but not all were fully compliant with
universal standards. Of taxi-hailing apps Meru, Ola and Uber, only Uber
was
completely accessible to the disabled. The others had mis-labelled or
unlabeled buttons and graphics.

When it came to food delivery, Zomato was the best at replicating the
user
experience for people with disabilities. Swiggy and Foodpanda were
difficult for new users, and Freshmenu was completely inaccessible.

Of the marketplace apps, Amazon and Snapdeal were the only accessible
ones.
Myntra and Flipkart had incorrectly labelled buttons and misleading
graphic
tags, which made them impossible for people with disabilities to use.
For
instance, customers would be able to select the product they wanted to
buy
but had no way of choosing the quantity, the study said. Online grocery
delivery apps Grofers and Zop Now were hard for people with
disabilities
to
use, while Big Basket was relatively better though pages change during
orders. Online payment portals Paytm, Oxigen and FreeCharge were
relatively
accessible, the study found.

“Designers, developers and industries need to realize that there are
more
people out there who use this technology .The market is much bigger and
they should work towards being inclusive,” said Narasimhan of CIS.

Albinder Dhinda, cofounder of grocery delivery service Grofers, said
their
app meets all accessibility requirements. “However, the disability
tools
provided by Google Play Store or the App Store often don’t benefit the
user
and are hard for them to use. We are trying to make it better. Things
like
online payments won’t be accessible to people with disabilities as
those
apps are supported by third party sites, and don’t fall within our
settings. We’re trying to make it better. We’re three years behind the
US,
in the playground they made. It’ll be a while before we reach their
 level,”
he said.

Source: Times of India

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