I also feel it's plain wrong to promote a practice which is definitely unethical and we can't justify it because it suits us fine.
Subramani -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Prashant Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 11:40 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Here's Your Diwali Gift! Let us end this discussion on the list. I think most of us understand the reasons behind the prevalence of piracy in our society but an effort should always be made for moving to the right side. The onus is on everyone; we cannot put off the responsibility by thinking that the government/institutions have to change the situation. Prashant ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dipendra manocha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Here's Your Diwali Gift! > Last mail on this subject from me with my personal view that I am really > not > convinced by your advocasy of piracy with any of the arguments. > > If some one wants to sell some months of work at Rs. 2000 or 3000 then > prologix certainly has this right too. > > If eloquance is available with jaws at 6 USD it is because they could > work > out a deal with them. If any developer can project high sales as jaws then > I > am sure Vachak can be sold below 6 USD too. > > Dipendra manocha > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramit Luthra > Sent: 18 November 2007 13:04 > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] Here's Your Diwali Gift! > > Rs. 2000 per PC, Hmm? Give me break! > Now, if some software vendor wants to provide a hindi speech output > through > his application (which he's selling at the cost of Rs. 2/3000 for > instance,) > the user of such application has to buy Vachak separately for Rs. 2000 > (just > costing nearly to the application > price,) the total cost he's to spend would become Rs. 4/5000, Would it be > considered it a low cost product (in purely Indian standard?) Compare to > it, > ViaVoice/Eloquence (developped by IBM, and is being used in Jaws,); the > English speech synthesizer costs about six dollars (Rs. 250,) per end-user > (included in the application price). > This meagre amount looks pretty but it's actually right because end-user > has nothing to do with the synthesizer, it's just a component of the > application like Jaws who has actually bought the developer version of the > synthesizer which costs about Rs. 10000. So, there must be some diference > between Run-Time licenses (Which are given along with the application to > the > end-users) and developer licenses (which are bought by applications' > vendors). > > If components are being sold for such high price, how could you think that > applications' vendors would ever be able to include them in their > products? > > Just wonder if some version of Microsoft Windows cost nearly about the > price > at which a laptop being sold, would anybody buy such OS for his personal > laptop? > > Please consider this, > Ramit > > > On 11/17/07, Prashant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> the price of Vaachak is Rs. 2000 per Pc. You get the TTS which can >> then be used by some external softwares. >> Prashant >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ramit Luthra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 4:04 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Here's Your Diwali Gift! >> >> >> > What's the price of Vachak? >> > If someone wants to get it for development/distribution (along with >> > the fruntEnd application,) how much will it cost? >> > >> > >> > On 11/16/07, Dipendra manocha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hello Harish >> >> Vchak with SAFA is fully stablised . Both versions of Vachak are >> >> working with SAFA. Different keyboard layouts have also been >> >> introduced. SAFA is freely downloadable with e-speak from nabdelhi >> >> web site. How ever, for Vachak license the license fee needs to be > paid. >> >> >> >> Thus we are committed to provide combined support on SAFA and >> >> Vachak being given along with SAFa. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Dipendra >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harish >> >> Kotian >> >> Sent: 17 November 2007 10:36 >> >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> >> Subject: Re: [AI] Here's Your Diwali Gift! >> >> >> >> Hi Dipendra and all >> >> >> >> I fully agree with you. We shall not have any more thread relating >> >> to Vachak. >> >> >> >> I have not used this product, but, has it fully stabilised? I >> >> understand, they have stopped development work. What happens to >> >> those who have paid for it? >> >> >> >> Unfortunately, it is also true projects out here don't reach fully >> >> towards its stated goals. >> >> True, this is a chicken and egg situation. I really don't know >> >> which business model shall get us out from this impass. >> >> >> >> Harish. >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Dipendra manocha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> >> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 10:58 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [AI] Here's Your Diwali Gift! >> >> >> >> >> >> >I feel sad when piracy goes full swing even for low costing >> >> >solutions. >> >> > >> >> > We are left with no face to speak to any manufacturers to put up >> >> > any time for developing solutions for us. >> >> > >> >> > If we are so stingy in spending then why don't we simply shift to >> >> > open source domain where all solutions are available free of cost >> >> > and we can stop living like thieves. >> >> > >> >> > There is no windows for Indian Languages There is no OCR in >> >> > Indian language There is no decent TTS for any Indian language. >> >> > >> >> > This is the cost that we pay when we do piracy. >> >> > >> >> > We complain that no one made SAPI compliant TTS. It takes 6 >> >> > months of 4 programmers to make non SAPI TTS into a SAPi >> >> > compliant one. If Prologix decides to do it for us then we will >> >> > make them to starv or force them to close down their company due >> >> > to losses. >> >> > >> >> > We cannot scan any Indian language books. We all complain about >> >> > this. >> >> > Why >> >> > do >> >> > you think ABBYY would be interested to create a Indian language >> >> > OCR? Do you think they will be able to recover their cost here? >> >> > >> >> > Is Vachak so unaffordable? >> >> > >> >> > Dipendra Manocha >> >> > >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of amar >> >> > jain >> >> > Sent: 16 November 2007 11:04 >> >> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> >> > Subject: Re: [AI] Here's Your Diwali Gift! >> >> > >> >> > Thanks a lot sir. >> >> > I will try it out and tell you. >> >> > Regards, >> >> > >> >> > On 11/16/07, Ramit Luthra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> Hello, >> >> >> You should not run files with the extention .z01/2... Just run >> >> >> the file with the extention .zip because else files are just >> >> >> subsidiaries of this main file. And yes you should extract the >> >> >> main file to start the installation. It will automatically extract > all the subsidiaries. >> >> >> Note you must have winzip or other similar tool which support >> >> >> splitted zip file format. >> >> >> >> >> >> Regarding licensing Vachak, I don't know, it should have worked >> >> >> if you'd followed the steps exactly because it's been working >> >> >> fine with me. Anyway, I've separately uploaded license files >> >> >> which you can download from >> >> >> >> >> >> ProLicense.dat: >> >> >> http://www.sendspace.com/file/4i8y0k >> >> >> >> >> >> ProLicense.txt: >> >> >> http://www.sendspace.com/file/bao3bn >> >> >> >> >> >> Now, try this out again: >> >> >> 1. Go to your Vachak directory (in program files, where Vachak >> >> >> has been installed, insure: This directory must have more than >> >> >> 8/9 files, some files must be named something similar to >> >> >> 'vachak.dll', >> >> >> 'lang.dll'.) >> >> >> 2. Copy both the license files you just downloaded. (If "Confirm >> >> >> file replace" dialog appears, click Yes to All/Yes button) 3. Go >> >> >> to the program folder of LSW (Insure: This folder must have more >> >> >> than 20 files, some names are - 'DocEdit.exe', 'license.rtf', >> >> >> 'user >> >> >> manual.def'.) >> >> >> 4. Copy both the downloaded license files here too (Click Yes if >> >> >> any replace confirmation dialog appears.) 5. Now Start document >> >> >> editor, run Vani with F5, choose Hindi... from the language >> >> >> menu, and type something, if Vani speeks the typed character, > Hurrah! >> >> >> >> >> >> If this doesn't work, Tell me, I have one last alternative. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 11/14/07, firoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> > same here >> >> >> > sender is not explaining with detail how to manage it i have >> >> >> > also down load it but no result >> >> >> > >> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> > From: "Amiyo Biswas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> > To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:37 AM >> >> >> > Subject: Re: [AI] Here's Your Diwali Gift! >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > Hello, >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > I downloaded all the files. But two files--vaachak01.g02 and >> >> >> > > vaachak02.g03--have invalid file extensions. Or I do not >> >> >> > > have the programmes associated with these types of files. >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > Moreover, the files Vaachak01.zip and viavoice01.zip are >> >> >> > > also invalid winzip files. The error message reads: >> >> >> > > Compressed (zipped) Folders Error The Compressed (zipped) >> >> >> > > Folder is invalid or corrupted. >> >> >> > > OK >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > Best regards, >> >> >> > > Amiyo. >> >> >> > > Cell: +91-9433464329 >> >> >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> > > From: "Ramit Luthra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> > > To: "amar jain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; >> >> >> <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> >> >> > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:38 PM >> >> >> > > Subject: [AI] Here's Your Diwali Gift! >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> Many of our friends have requested me to upload Vachak on >> >> >> > >> sendspace so here it is, I have uploaded it, + with an >> >> >> > >> extra bonus gift bundled together; that is, viavoice >> >> >> > >> outloud! If someone asks "What is it?" So, it's a speech >> >> >> > >> engine for many foreign languages like US and/UK/Australian >> >> >> > >> English, french and ...! >> >> >> > >> But, what I have read on the website of LSW and in its user >> >> >> > >> manual, tells that Vani supports only US English version of >> >> >> > >> ViaVoice at present. But that's not bad, after all, we'll >> >> >> > >> get rid of bloody Narrator voice and may enjoy jaws like voice > with LSW! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> So, go grab the gift you all, >> >> >> > >> Vachak: >> >> >> > >> http://www.sendspace.com/file/noekjf >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> http://www.sendspace.com/file/ibilg6 >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> http://www.sendspace.com/file/c5pn5j >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> http://www.sendspace.com/file/e1kh9d >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> Outloud: >> >> >> > >> USXX (2m, contains only USEnglish engine) >> >> >> > >> http://www.sendspace.com/file/wn4esj >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> Full (17m) >> >> >> > >> http://www.sendspace.com/file/o3lqev >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> http://www.sendspace.com/file/qs3ib8 >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> You should download the full one as you may require to >> >> >> > >> install any other language in future, but as of now, you're >> >> >> > >> required to install the US English engine only. I recommend >> >> >> > >> you to install it from the main folder's "outloud" >> >> >> > >> setup.exe file instead of its subfolder USXX folder's >> >> >> > >> setup.exe file. If you're installing from the main >> >> >> > >> setup.exe file, uncheck all the other languages check boxes >> >> >> > >> (if they are checked by default.) >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> After installation >> >> >> > >> To have viavoice worked with Vani, you must do one thing >> >> >> > >> (which you can also read entirely on the download page of >> >> >> > >> LSW,) anyway I'm just explaining it briefly here. >> >> >> > >> Open the program folder of viavoice (which should be >> >> >> > >> 'c:\Program Files\Via Voice' or something similar to it,) >> >> >> > >> copy the file named 'ibmeci50.dll', open system's system >> >> >> > >> folder > (just tyep 'system32' >> >> >> > >> in the start menu's run dialog and press enter,) and paste >> >> >> > >> the file here, you're done! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> Note: What I have read on sendspace, if an uploaded file >> >> >> > >> isn't downloaded for seven (7) days, the file is deleted >> >> >> > >> automatically (for free users), So, do download it >> >> >> > >> frequently to persist it for >> >> > others. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> Happy Diwali..!..!..! 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