it means  you know this person, and also know what she or he is capable of.
At 09:56 AM 11/29/2007, you wrote:
>Kanchan!
>If a person brings his/her own scribe, then there is no question of
>percentage?  It means.  PL clarify.
>Regards
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Pamnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>Sent: 29/11/2007 12:59 PM
>Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>
>
> > Sweety my dear the 55% is not for your scribe but only for the scribe
> > provided by the Authority. Your Scribe is covered in clause 3 and then if
> > you choose not to bring your own scribe then it is the authority who will
> > provide a scribe with some minimum qualifications.
> > Kanchan Pamnani
> > Advocate & Solicitor
> > 9, Suleman Chambers,
> > Battery Street, Colaba,
> > Mumbai - 400 039.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "sweety bhalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
> >
> >
> > > Moreover the scribe with 55 % marks for examinations, it is very
>difficult
> > > to get in this time.  It should be at least 60%marks.  Telling my own
> > > experience and facing problems in my dept examinations.
> > > Regards
> > > (Sweety Bhalla)
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Vetrivel Adhimoolam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: pamnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> > > Sent: 29/11/2007 8:56 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
> > >
> > >> Hello Kanchan,
> > >>
> > >> It is certainly a well drafted policy. It pretty much covers
>everything.
> > > But
> > >> a couple of suggestions though: The policy also should include
>sufficient
> > >> guidelines describing what should be done in the event of certain
>delays
> > > as
> > >> the result of computer problems or the malfunctioning of the software.
> > >> Because things can go wrong on that front and visually challenged
> > > candidates
> > >> should not suffer as the result of such issues. So in my view, the
> > >> software/hardware requirements should be amended to be inclusive of
>this
> > >> issue. Second, visually impaired candidates are also increasingly
> > > appearing
> > >> on various exams that require solving of extensive mathematical
>problems.
> > >> Some of those exams may actually allow regular students to use
>calculator
> > >> and in such circumstances, visually challenged candidates also should
>be
> > >> allowed to bring talking calculator in to the examination hall.
> > >>
> > >> Vetri.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: pamnani
> > >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:04 PM
> > >> Subject: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hi Friends
> > >> Have drafted a Policy for Examinations of the Visually disabled in
>India
> > >> thanks to the input from Anjali, Asif, Dipendra, Harish, Ketan,  Neha,
> > >> Pranav,  Rajesh, Sam and SGS Sisodia and numerous others who helped
>when
> > > the
> > >> Maharashtra Guidelines were being framed.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Please let me have your comments on this draft urgently and no later
>than
> > >> this evening. I need to send it to the Disability commission.
> > >> thanks Kanchan
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Policy for Examination of the Visually Disabled
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The need for a standard and comprehensive Policy throughout India for
>the
> > >> examination of the Visually Disabled has been growing since:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>   a.. Every year more and more Visually Disabled candidates are
>appearing
> > >> for various examinations.
> > >>   b.. Number of examining bodies has been increasing over the years
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>   a.. Various orders/judgments/directions have been passed by various
> > >> Courts/Commissions/Authorities and deal with the problem in piecemeal.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>   a.. Various examination conducting authorities have different rules
> > > and/or
> > >> implement the rules in different ways.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>   a.. Technology is improving and needs to be taken into account
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>   a.. The anxiety suffered by the examinees before and during the
> > >> examination has to be removed
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>   a.. Questions asked at written examinations and the examinations
> > >> themselves are varied and need to be answered in various ways.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>   a.. Competition is increasing and the Visually Disabled have to be
> > >> given
> > > a
> > >> level playing field
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> This Policy will apply to all examinations being conducted in India
> > >> generally and specifically to examinations conducted by Educational
> > >> institutions- schools and  colleges (both internal and external),
>School
> > > and
> > >> College Boards, universities and deemed universities, autonomous bodies
> > >> conducting entrance or promotional examinations as well as all
> > >> recruiting/promoting  authorities and any other authorities or bodies
> > > under
> > >> which a Visually Disabled examinee wishes to appear for an examination
> > >> for
> > >> any purpose whatsoever. The paramount purpose of the Policy is to
> > > alleviate
> > >> the hardship being caused to the Visually disabled candidate due to
> > >> uncertainty in policy and to mitigate the effects of a disability.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 1. Scribe
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> a. The Visually Disabled candidate must be allowed the use of a Scribe
> > >> who
> > >
> > >> will read the question papers and write/type the answers dictated by
>the
> > >> Visually disabled candidate.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> b. Since one of the important factors while doing an examination is
> > >> speed,
> > >> adequate practice is necessary, Visually Disabled persons should be
> > > allowed
> > >> to use the services of a scribe of his/her own choice. The Visually
> > > Disabled
> > >> candidate may however request the Examining authority to provide a
> > >> Scribe.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> c. The discretion to arrange for his/her own Scribe or to be provided
>by
> > >> a
> > >> Scribe by the Examining Authority is with the candidate alone.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> d. No other restriction other than those mentioned in Clauses 3 or 4
> > > herein
> > >> below should be imposed on the selection of a scribe.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> e. It is desirable that the candidate and the scribe are from the same
> > >> stream.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 2. Examination Form/Application
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> a. All Application Forms/Advertisements for exams should mention that a
> > >> Visually Disabled candidate will be allowed the use of a Scribe and
> > >> alternative formats will be provided.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> b. The examining authority should give a clear option in the
> > >> advertisement
> > >> itself whether the examinee wishes the scribe to be provided by the
> > >> examination conducting body or he/she wishes to arrange the scribe on
> > >> his/her own.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> c. The Examining authority at the time of advertisement/application
> > >> should
> > >> also print the criteria/qualification for scribe to be followed.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> d. The application form should have a provision asking low vision
>persons
> > > to
> > >> indicate the requirement of question paper in large print.  The
> > >> advertisement for examination as well as the application form should
>also
> > >> clearly mention that the low vision persons would be allowed the use of
> > >> magnifying glass.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 3. Scribes chosen by Candidate
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> a. In case the candidate avails the services of his/her own
> > >> scribe/writer,
> > >> the scribe/writer   should be one grade junior in academic
>qualification
> > >> than the candidate if from the same stream.  However, this condition
> > >> shall
> > >> not apply if the scribe/writer is from a different stream.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> b. For competitive examinations the scribe needs to be one level below
> > >> the
> > >> eligibility criteria of the competitive exam in consideration.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> c. For internal exams of schools and colleges the condition of the
>scribe
> > >> being one grade junior in academic qualification than the candidate
> > >> should
> > >> not be enforced strictly as this would cause undue hardship to the
> > > candidate
> > >> and give rise to unviable solutions.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 4. Scribes provided by Examining Authorities
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> a. Considering the practical problems, it is necessary that even if the
> > >> scribe is provided by the examination conducting authorities, at the
> > > request
> > >> of examinee, such authorities must ensure the competence of the
> > >> scribe/writer. If the scribe is provided by the examining authorities,
>it
> > >> should be ensured that the scribe is adequately qualified to understand
> > > the
> > >> questions and to explain them to the candidate.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> b. To ensure the competence of such a scribe provided, the following
> > >> conditions should be adhered to:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> i.           as far as possible and practical, the scribe
>himself/herself
> > >> should be a current student;
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ii.          In any case, the time interval between when such a scribe
> > >> ceased to be a student himself/herself and the time he/she is acting as
>a
> > >> scribe should not be more than three years, because with the lapse of
> > > time,
> > >> natural abilities of a student like writing speed, taking dictation and
> > >> writing an examination efficiently in a specified time frame, suffer a
> > >> considerable decline. However strict adherence to this requirement
>cannot
> > > be
> > >> stretched beyond a logical point.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> iii.        The medium of instruction of the scribe in his/her studies
> > >> should essentially be, or have been, the same as the examinee.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> iv.        Scribe should, as far as possible, belong to the same stream
> > >> as
> > >> the examinee.
> > >>
> > >> v.         In cases where the scribe is provided by exam conducting
> > >> bodies
> > >> at the request of the examinee, she/he should not have scored below 55%
> > >> marks in the last exam.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> c. The examining body should identify the scribes/writers and make the
> > >> panels at district/Division or state level as per requirement of
> > >> examination.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> d. The Panels of scribe should be as per requirement of the
> > >> stream/discipline eg. Arts, Commerce, Science & Mathematics,
>Engineering,
> > >> Medical etc. and only eligible scribes should be included in the panel.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 5. Supervision
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Any attempt at cheating and other malpractices can be curbed by
>ensuring
> > >> proper supervision and vigilance by the invigilators. This is the
> > >> responsibility of the Examining Authority. No restrictions should be
> > > imposed
> > >> on the choice of a scribe by a candidate on this account.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 6. Additional time
> > >>
> > >> a.                   The facility of Additional time must be allotted
>to
> > > all
> > >> Visually Disabled candidates appearing for examinations in any format
> > >> with
> > >> or without the use of a Scribe.
> > >>
> > >> b.                  For a written test of duration of 1 hour at least
>20
> > >> minutes extra time should be allotted.
> > >>
> > >> c.                   Similarly For written tests involving more than
>one
> > > or
> > >> less than one hour extra time should be worked out on the basis of 20
> > >> minutes per one hour criteria.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 7. Arrangements at the Examination
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> a. Proper sitting arrangement should be made before commencement of the
> > >> examination so as to avoid confusion and distraction.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> b. Sitting arrangements for the disabled candidates should be made on
>the
> > >> ground floor, as far as possible.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> c. Refreshments, if any to scribes/writers should either are served
> > >> before
> > >> or after the examination and not during the examination.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> d. The Chief invigilator of the examination center should have
> > > discretionary
> > >> powers to accept last minute change of scribes under exigencies.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> e. Considering the fact that many exams are held in overlapping
>schedules
> > >> and also the fact that the scribes may not be free/willing to commit
> > >> themselves for the entire duration of exam or examination of various
> > >> languages, more than one person may be permitted to write different
> > >> papers
> > >> for the same examination, provided they fulfill all other conditions
>laid
> > >> down in clauses 3 or 4 above. For enacting such a change in scribes for
> > >> different papers, the ground of contingency should not be a mandatory
> > >> requirement.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> f. The letter approving the scribe should contain the following
> > > information
> > >> in writing:
> > >>
> > >> i. The extra time given to the candidate
> > >>
> > >> ii. He shall be seated separately
> > >>
> > >> iii. Contact address and phone number of competent authority should
>also
> > > be
> > >> printed for last minute change of scribe.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> g. To minimize the need for last minute change in the scribe and in
>view
> > > of
> > >> (e) above, a collective sanction letter may be issued, sanctioning
> > > multiple
> > >> scribes proposed by the examinee, so that any of them may be called
>upon
> > > to
> > >> act as the scribe in any particular paper, without the hassle of
> > > formalities
> > >> involved in changing the scribe at the eleventh hour.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> h. Candidate, scribe and supervisor should be provided with full
> > > information
> > >> about the duration of the examination.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 8. Aids and appliances
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> a. a. All Visually Disabled candidates may be allowed to carry special
> > >> mathematical aids such as Taylor's frame or abacus as they have no
>other
> > > way
> > >> of calculating sums.  Neither abacus nor Taylor's frame calculate the
> > >> sums
> > >> but are mere aids such as a paper for candidates with vision.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> b. in papers such as accounts the visually disabled candidate may be
> > > allowed
> > >> to carry Braille slates and papers for writing the numbers as it is
> > >> difficult to remember the balance sheets
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> c. The visually disabled candidate should also be allowed to use
>optical/
> > >> electronic low vision aids such as magnifying glass;
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 9. Alternative Formats
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> a. In addition to the facility of a scribe the Visually Disabled
> > > candidates
> > >> have the facility to write answers in Braille or on a computer or a
> > >> typewriter or may ask for question paper in large font.
> > >>
> > >> b. The answer paper in Braille should be evaluated by the
> > >> expert/examiners
> > >> in Braille script. If possible the question paper may be provided in
> > > Braille
> > >> or in digital text.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> c. The font size of the question paper should not be less than 20 for
>the
> > >> benefit of low vision candidates.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> d. Considering the developments in technology, all examination
>conducting
> > >> bodies should facilitate the use of computers for taking the exams by
>the
> > >> visually Disabled examinees, if the candidate so desires.
> > >>
> > >> e. Visually Disabled candidates appearing for "Open book Exams may be
> > >> provided the texts of such books in Braille, in digital format on the
> > >> computer or in large text at the choice of the candidate.
> > >>
> > >> 10. Alternative Questions
> > >>
> > >> a. Alternative questions must be provided in cases where the original
> > >> question contains visual elements and/or require the candidate to
> > > interpret
> > >> or produce such visual elements. However the candidate may elect to
> > >> answer
> > >> the original question.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> b. Wherever possible, the visual graphs should be supplemented by
> > >> descriptive explanation of the graphs for visually Disabled candidates.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> c. For practical exams the Visually Disabled candidate must be allowed
> > >> the
> > >> help of a laboratory  assistant to conduct the experiment and or be
> > > provided
> > >> alternative oral questions in place of the experiment to be conducted.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 11. Examination on Computers
> > >>
> > >> a. Visually Disabled candidates can appear in examination on the
>computer
> > >> only if students are computer literate and can type at least at the
>speed
> > > of
> > >> 30 words per minute. The software and hardware is now available to make
> > >> students write their examinations both in Hindi and English mediums
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> b. This form of examination is preferable than the use of scribes due
>to
> > > the
> > >> following reasons:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> i. High payments being demanded by Scribes
> > >>
> > >> ii. Wasting crucial time just before the examinations just to look for
> > >> scribes.
> > >>
> > >> iii. Sexual harassment of girl students.
> > >>
> > >> iv. Losing marks due to mistakes of scribes or casual attitude of
> > >> scribes.
> > >>
> > >> v. Week students getting away with good marks by making their scribes
> > > write
> > >> answers to questions that they do not know.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> c. The use of computers for examination does not mean that a scribe to
> > > read
> > >> the question paper is dispensed with. However the candidate may not
> > > require
> > >> a sighted person and dispense with the same.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> d. The responsibility to bring a computer is not on the student/
> > > candidate.
> > >> The centre/ Examining authority shall spare one of its own Computers
>for
> > > the
> > >> exam.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> e. However if it is feasible then the candidate may be allowed to use
>his
> > >> own computer. This may be decided by the candidate and the examining
> > >> authority mutually.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> f. the only responsibility that a student aspiring to give exam on
> > > computer
> > >> has, is to bring the screen reading software.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> g. The candidate should be allowed to install the screen reading
>software
> > > a
> > >> day in advance on the computer provided with printer installed
> > >>
> > >> h. recommended Equipment preparation:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> i. For each candidate appearing in the examination two computers may be
> > > set
> > >> up for this purpose. One for writing the examination and one as
>stand-by
> > > in
> > >> case of any failure in the machine.
> > >>
> > >> ii. The computer must have the following software installed:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> A.        MS Office
> > >>
> > >> B.         Page maker 6
> > >>
> > >> C.        Jaws for windows screen reading software.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> iii. The medium of examination for the student can be in English or
>Hindi
> > > .
> > >>
> > >> iv. All the data on the Computer must be password protected using the
> > >> utility software called Folder Access. This software can make any
>folder
> > >> access limited by password.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>   6.. UPS with back-up of 2 hours must be installed at the centre.
> > >>   7.. Vi. Two printers may be kept for taking the final print-outs of
>the
> > >> answer sheets.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> i. Recommended procedure for examination:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> i. The computer centre or the library may be designated as one of the
> > >> examination centres for conducting the examination.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ii. Question paper must be sent to this Centre on a CD.
> > >>
> > >> iii. The question paper may be sent in the page-maker file format.
> > >>
> > >> iv. The paper then requires to be converted into a MS word file. The
> > >> original file may be opened in the page maker software. Each page of
>the
> > >> question paper must be copied and pasted in the MS word document.
> > >>
> > >> v. if the candidate is appearing in English Medium,  the Jaws software
> > >> may
> > >> speak gibberish where Hindi text appears, all Hindi language text must
>be
> > >> deleted from the question paper.
> > >>
> > >> vi. This MS word file must be password protected.
> > >>
> > >> vii. Answer sheet- One blank MS-word document may be created on the
> > > Computer
> > >> and shortcut to this may be created on the desk-top. This blank
>document
> > >> must have the paper size and margins set according to the extension
> > >> sheets
> > >> of the answer sheet on which the final print-out will be taken. Viii.
>The
> > >> role-number and other details of the candidate must be filled on the
> > >> original sheet by the invigilator using normal pen. These extension
> > >> sheets
> > >> must be stapled with each sheet of the original answer sheet. Each
>sheet
> > >> must be signed by the invigilator.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>   8.. The candidate must be allowed to have access to the Computer 10
> > >> minutes before the start of examination time.
> > >>   9.. X. At the time of start of examination, the password for the
> > > question
> > >> paper file must be told to the candidate.
> > >> 12. Other Disabled Candidates
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Although the aforesaid guidelines are specifically for Visually
>disabled
> > >> candidates these guidelines may be used by the Examining authorities
> > >> while
> > >> conducting examinations for other candidates suffering from disability
> > >> whether permanent or temporary.
> > >>
> > >>
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