Hi friends,
I am looking for a new handset and would like to know  the phones with
multi finger gestures available under rs. 25000.
Thanks,
Rohith

On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 10:29 AM Satguru Rathi <tarannumra...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> CSR stands for Commentary Screen Reader. This is another alternative to
> Talkback developed by some Chinese guys. What I know is that this is a
> paid software and comes with many advanced features surpassing Talkback.
> What holds me back though is its non-availability on playstore.
>
> Best,
>
> Satguru.
>
> On 18-11-2021 12:14 am, BIKRAMADITYA BEHERA wrote:
> > Hello sir,
> >
> > Would you mind explaining a bit more about CSR? I didn’t get the context
> of the same in the below line that you have mentioned in your last reply:
> > “But CSR does have this OCR capability of its own.”
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 17-Nov-2021, at 2:15 PM, Sandesh <sandeshnaray...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Namaskar again!
> >>
> >> Google says this much about Talkback 12.1:
> >>
> >> TalkBack 12.1:
> >> • Automatic captions for unlabeled images that contain text
> >> • Window navigation
> >>
> >> It's natural that people may think this "Automatic captions for
> unlabeled images" is OCR feature.
> >>
> >> But CSR does have this OCR capability of its own.
> >>
> >> You are right, Various phones from various manufacturers are there
> having various additional features, even stock or pure Android phones lag
> behind.
> >>
> >> Vande Mataram
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vikas Kapoor" <dl.vi...@gmail.com>
> >> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 1:30 PM
> >> Subject: RE: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
> >>
> >>
> >> I don't think so. People who have not activated their select to speak
> are able to use the OCR feature, especially on images and some unlabelled
> buttons. Android OS being a part of open source regime, you never know
> which phones have what  additional features.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> On Behalf Of Sandesh
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 11:28 AM
> >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> >> Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
> >>
> >> Namaskar Vikas and all!
> >>
> >> There seems confusion here.
> >> the feature you are talking is not talkback feature, rather it's Select
> to Speak one. And now, it's part of Android Accessibility package. both
> Select to Speak and Talkback are parts of Android Accessibility suite.
> >>
> >> In google's words, "Android Accessibility Suite is a collection of
> accessibility apps that help you use your Android device eyes-free or with
> a switch device.
> >>
> >> Android Accessibility Suite includes:
> >> • Accessibility Menu: Use this large on-screen menu to lock your phone,
> control volume and brightness, take screenshots, and more.
> >> • Select to Speak: Select items on your screen and hear them read aloud.
> >> • Switch Access: Interact with your Android device using one or more
> switches or a keyboard instead of the touch screen - **newly added** Camera
> Switches to navigate with facial gestures.
> >> • TalkBack screen reader: Get spoken feedback, control your device with
> gestures, and type with the on-screen braille keyboard".
> >>
> >> I hope, confusion is clear now.
> >>
> >> Still, I am pasting here relevant part of Google help article on using
> Select to Speak for OCR purpose with it's URL:
> >>
> >> ==============================
> >> Begins the portion of the Article
> >>
> >>
> >> https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/7349565?hl=en
> >>
> >> Android Accessibility Help
> >>
> >> Use Select to Speak
> >>
> >> Some of these steps work only on Android 11.0 and up.
> >>
> >> You can select items on your screen and hear them read or described
> aloud with Select to Speak for Android.
> >>
> >> Step 1: Turn on Select to Speak
> >> 1.Open your device's Settings app .
> >> 2.Tap Accessibility, then tap Select to Speak. •Note: If you don't see
> Select to Speak, go to Google Play to download the latest version of
> Android Accessibility Suite, then try these steps again.
> >>
> >> 3.Turn on Select to Speak shortcut.
> >> 4.Optional: To change your shortcut, tap Select to Speak shortcut.
> >>
> >> Step 2: Use Select to Speak
> >>
> >> Hear descriptions of things on your screen 1.To start Select to Speak,
> use your Select to Speak shortcut: 2-finger swipe up (3-finger swipe if
> TalkBack is on), or tap the Accessibility button Accessibility.
> >> 2.Tap an item on your screen, like text or an image.
> >> 3.To hear multiple items, drag your finger across the screen.
> >> 4.To hear everything, tap Play Play. •Tip: When the player is open, use
> the buttons to pause or play, skip forward or backward, and to increase or
> decrease speed.
> >>
> >> Point your camera at pictures or text
> >>
> >> You can point your camera at pictures or text to hear them read or
> described aloud with OCR.
> >>
> >> This feature is available for Catalan, Danish, Dutch, English, Finnish,
> French, German, Hungarian, Italian, Latin, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese,
> Romanian, Spanish, Swedish, Tagalog, and Turkish.
> >> 1.Tap the Google Camera app .
> >> 2.Point the camera at an image or text.
> >> 3.To start Select to Speak, use your Select to Speak shortcut: 2-finger
> swipe up (3-finger swipe if TalkBack is on), or tap the Accessibility
> button Accessibility.
> >> 4.Drag your finger across the screen, highlighting the text you want to
> read.
> >>
> >> Read in the background
> >>
> >> You can do other things while Select to Speak is reading in the
> background.
> >> For example, scroll down or switch to another app while Select to Speak
> reads.
> >>
> >> To let Select to Speak read in the background:
> >> 1.Open your device's Settings app .
> >> 2.Tap Accessibility, then tap Select to Speak.
> >> 3.Tap Settings.
> >> 4.At the top, turn on Read in background.
> >>
> >> Note: Select to Speak might not work with every mobile web browser.
> >>
> >> End of Article
> >> =================
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Vande Mataram
> >>
> >> Sandesh
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Vikas Kapoor" <dl.vi...@gmail.com>
> >> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 6:53 PM
> >> Subject: RE: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes Satguru, it is a TalkBack feature, since I have Samsung phone and I
> have
> >> yet to get this feature, I can't guide you more on this, but many people
> >> have been using this feature.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> On
> >> Behalf Of Satguru Rathi
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 2:56 PM
> >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> >> Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
> >>
> >> ability to perform OCR through built-in
> >> OCR without any third-party app??I first thought I've miss read it! I'm
> not
> >> aware of any such feature on my phone! There is one addition related to
> this
> >> though which is known as "Automatic captioning of unlabled images
> containing
> >> text" but I can't find it anywhere in the talkback settings! but then
> may
> >> be, it only pops up when there is an unlabled image with text.
> >>
> >> Hope to learn more on this.
> >>
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Satguru.
> >>
> >>> On 16-11-2021 02:22 pm, Vikas Kapoor wrote:
> >>> But Samsung phone users are certainly missing one important feature to
> >>> those of non-Samsung users, which is the ability to perform OCR through
> >>> built-in OCR without any third-party app. We have no idea as to when
> >>> Samsung is going to provide the same feature.
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> >>> On Behalf Of Satguru Rathi
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 1:12 PM
> >>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> >>> Subject: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Many of us using non Samsung phones have been admiring the touch and
> >>> double tap to type feature of the Samsung keyboard on their phones for
> >>> years! That changes with TB 12.1! You can now activate this feature on
> >>> almost any android phone running the mentioned version of the TB.
> >>>
> >>> Steps: Open the TB settings from the TB menu (Swipe up then
> >>> right),navigate to Advanced settings and then to "Typing Preference".
> >>> You'll find two options: Hold finger to select key, then double tap
> >>> and second, Hold finger to select key, then lift. The second one is
> >>> activated by default. I've tried it on my Oneplus 8 running Oxygen
> >>> 11.0.9.9 based on Android 11 and it is working fine. I prefer the
> >>> standard method though, but that's the personal choice
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Enjoy!
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> Satguru.
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