Hi Folks,
I’m adding one more item to this list which I forgot in my previous message.
I am looking for your personal experience on a combination of the following
factors:
1. A cellular provider whose App is accessible to Talkback for Android, or
which uses a good Web interface to view account balance and prepaid history
that can be navigated from a PC Web Browser.
2. A cellular provider which offers simple pricing without funny bells and
whistles but does what it is supposed to do: allows the user to make phone
calls and use Data at the best prices.
3. If possible, a cellular provider which charges by usage unit prices and not
by expiry dates.
4. A cellular provider which has a helpdesk number that actually effectively
leads to a human operator.
Any advice will be appreciated. You can write me off-list if this might hog the
list, although I believe the accessibility questions may prove useful to others
here.
Yamuna Jivana Dasa
From: Harish Kotian
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 11:31 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in ; Muralidharan Vishwanath
Subject: Re: [AI] Issues with UDID
Hi
It is necessary to start with a deadline.Sure enough, looking at the data it
will be extended. Glad to know you concur with UDID implementation.We have seen
with linking PAN with Adhar, the deadline was extended.
We too tend to lax without a deadline.
May I clear the myth which tends to be propagated in some quarters that I am
arbitrary in intervening in a flamed and out of scope postings.It was certainly
spelt out without context presently.
In many occasion in the past there was a effort to have a single disability
card. However, the effort was halfhearted then. Hopefully, linked with Adhar it
really happens.
We too need to keep the pressure that it happens.
Harish
On 19/03/2023 10:47, Muralidharan Vishwanath wrote:
For your information, it is the NPRD which advocated for a universally valid
ID for disabled right at its inception in 2010.
It was also at the NPRD's behest that the universal validity of the
disability certificate was incorporated into the RPD Act, 2016.
Therefore, the allegation that we are attempting to"stalling" this effort is
baseless and malafide. (I am sure, I too will be kicked out of the list now).
But the DEPwD is setting a deadline of April 1, 2023 even while more than
half of the disabled population who possess disability certificates have not
been issued UDID cards. How can this be accepted?
Secondly, the central government's own departments do not accept the UDID -
railways for instance insists that one should procure the card that it is
issuing. Every year several cases are highlighted of MBBS aspirants whose UDID
cards are rejected and a reverification of their disability done at designated
centres. This defeats the very purpose of the UDID.
I am not going into the various issues with the procurement of UDID that
people face, that is a different matter.
The NPRD's interest is to see that all disabled are able to get UDID in a
hassle free process. When the disability certificate is replaced by the UDID
and becomes valid for all purposes, it is natural that it will become mandatory
(like the certificate earlier) for availing any scheme.
What we have asked for is the difficulties that people are facing in the
procurement of the UDID so that we can take it up with the government. Let me
make it loud and clear. We have not and do not intend to stall or oppose the
UDID.
All the best sathiyo.
On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 8:52 AM Harish Kotian <hpkot...@outlook.com> wrote:
Hi
It is my personal opinion that UDID should be made mandatory for availing
all services for the disabled.It should be the only identification means for
authenticating disability.
Having said this, all the services should be put in place before the D date
and scaling up should be fully factored in. There are numerous benefits to us
through UDID. We should not fall into the temptation of stalling the effort and
rather we should clearly not join them.
There may be some difficulty for sometime. That always happens during
transition. As what they say, you don't throw the baby with the bathwater
I am well aware, there is going to be sharp reactions to my line of
thought, however I am convinced UDID is progressive and disabled friendly and
this is the most important thing which can make huge changes for our benefit.
Harish
On 19/03/2023 06:43, bhawani shankar verma wrote:
UDID should not be mada mandatory. we must fight collectively for it.
On Sat, 18 Mar 2023, 9:09 pm Amar Jain, <amarj...@amarjain.com> wrote:
I would like to help you out to address your concerns. I am a corporate
lawyer and have an interface with the authorities you are struggling with.
Is there a way we can speak? I am reachable on 9892622230. Thank you.
Sent from my iPhone
On 18-Mar-2023, at 12:55 PM, Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan)
<ykhan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Muralidharan,
Thank you for taking up these matters. I pray you meet some success.
In India it seems a lot of this is going on: They make something inaccessible
to achieve, manditory to achieve. Everybody should have 5 biscuits each from
the packet of biscuits, but there is an empty biscuit packet on the table even
before the distribution to all the attendees. This is my experience having come
to India. Very sad and ironical. Aadhaar for the blind is impossible here in
Vrindavana because the agents say the retina scan cannot be bypassed. Without
Aadhaar I cannot get UDID either. When I went to buy my home, they refused
because a blind person cannot own property. We have to be linked with a sighted
person who has Aadhaar so that the property can be registered with the sighted
person’s name. I am very hurt by this behaviour in India, and there seems to be
no authority in place who really cares to actually do something.
Can you please help me? Very pained and frustrated. Sometimes I feel
life was better under our former captivity of slave-owners and later the
African leadership who hate Indians in Africa. I came to India to become free.
How wrong was I? Now having returned home after 4 generations away, I return
home only to find we are slaves here to a highly corrupt and disorganized
administration. For example, the National number for the Aadhaar Helpdesk is
1947. Guess what! Only problem is it does not exist!!!
Thanks a lot however for doing what you can. Evidently you are
fighting a very difficult battle and my heart is with you. May Bhagavan Sri
Ramachandra who was the most organized and loved King on Earth, walk with you –
no – carry you through this fight.
Yoganathan Khandoo (Yamuna Jivana Dasa)
From: Muralidharan Vishwanath
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2023 11:39 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Issues with UDID
March 18, 2023
As all of you are aware, the UDID is being made mandatory from April
1, 2023 for registering for central government schemes.
This even while more than half of the disabled who have certificates,
have not been issued UDID or have enrolled but not been issued certificates, or
have been unable to enroll for it, due to various issues.
UDID is being made compulsory even when central government’s own
ministries/departments viz. railways, for admissions to MBBS, for recruitment
in jobs, or many institutes of higher learning are refusing to accept the
validity of the card
The NPRD has written to the DEPwD objecting to the mandatory
imposition of the UDID.
It has also raised the issue of the refusal by various departments to
accept its validity.
Notwithstanding this, we would like to list before the department,
the issues that the disabled are facing with regard to procuring UDID.
One of the main issues that has been identified especially in the
rural areas is about non-availability of seva kendras, private centres charging
hefty amounts, or they being far away including their inaccessibility. Second
issue identified is about card not being issued despite passage of a long time
after enrollment.
We are seeking a meeting with the Secretary DEPwD next week. The
issues that we are attempting to list will be placed before him.
You are requested to assist us by informing us of the issues that you
face. You may please mail to us by March 20, 2023 evening at nprd...@gmail.com
Muralidharan
General Secretary
NPRD
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