Dear Yamuna, most of the providers could not sustain due to market competition due to excessive cheap call rates that were offered with lifetime validity by the companies. And, owing to this, most of the companies were not able to improve their infrastructure and finally some of them collapsed and some of them merged with some other big companies. As per your other question, the talk times are still relevant to enable the customers to make ISD calls which are not bundled with the recharge packs.
On 23/03/2023, Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan) <ykhan...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Vikas Kapoor, > > This is interesting. I wonder how did they manage to illiminate the other > providers. Is it about price-fixing and plans-fixing here in India? In > sSouth Africa we have a free-market system in which generally this type of > price-fixing is illegal. Anything like that in India to protect the consumer > > and encourage better competition between providers offerings? > > To bring this on-topic for this group, I suspect such competition will see > more providers wanting to make their products accessible to more people, > hence accessibility build into Apps Etc. > > Yamuna Jivana Dasa > -----Original Message----- > From: Vikas Kapoor > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 10:22 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] Re: Looking for Cellular provider with Accessible App and > > helpdesk > > Forget about that, gone are those days when you have unit-based > charges, the most pathetic story here in India is that everyone apes > the other one. In any case, at one point of time, we in India used to > have nearly 8 service providers which has now been reduced to only 2 > or 3. So, each service provider has almost the same structure of call > charges and tariffs. > > On 22/03/2023, Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan) <ykhan...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi Folks, >> I’m adding one more item to this list which I forgot in my previous >> message. >> I am looking for your personal experience on a combination of the >> following >> factors: >> 1. A cellular provider whose App is accessible to Talkback for Android, >> or >> which uses a good Web interface to view account balance and prepaid >> history >> that can be navigated from a PC Web Browser. >> 2. A cellular provider which offers simple pricing without funny bells >> and >> whistles but does what it is supposed to do: allows the user to make >> phone >> calls and use Data at the best prices. >> 3. If possible, a cellular provider which charges by usage unit prices >> and >> not by expiry dates. >> 4. A cellular provider which has a helpdesk number that actually >> effectively >> leads to a human operator. >> >> Any advice will be appreciated. You can write me off-list if this might >> hog >> the list, although I believe the accessibility questions may prove useful >> >> to >> others here. >> >> >> Yamuna Jivana Dasa >> >> From: Harish Kotian >> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 11:31 AM >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in ; Muralidharan Vishwanath >> Subject: Re: [AI] Issues with UDID >> >> Hi >> >> It is necessary to start with a deadline.Sure enough, looking at the data >> >> it >> will be extended. Glad to know you concur with UDID implementation.We >> have >> seen with linking PAN with Adhar, the deadline was extended. >> >> >> >> >> We too tend to lax without a deadline. >> >> >> >> May I clear the myth which tends to be propagated in some quarters that I >> >> am >> arbitrary in intervening in a flamed and out of scope postings.It was >> certainly spelt out without context presently. >> >> >> >> In many occasion in the past there was a effort to have a single >> disability >> card. However, the effort was halfhearted then. Hopefully, linked with >> Adhar >> it really happens. >> >> We too need to keep the pressure that it happens. >> >> >> >> Harish >> >> >> >> On 19/03/2023 10:47, Muralidharan Vishwanath wrote: >> >> For your information, it is the NPRD which advocated for a universally >> valid ID for disabled right at its inception in 2010. >> It was also at the NPRD's behest that the universal validity of the >> disability certificate was incorporated into the RPD Act, 2016. >> >> Therefore, the allegation that we are attempting to"stalling" this >> effort >> is baseless and malafide. (I am sure, I too will be kicked out of the >> list >> now). >> >> But the DEPwD is setting a deadline of April 1, 2023 even while more >> than >> half of the disabled population who possess disability certificates have >> not >> been issued UDID cards. How can this be accepted? >> >> Secondly, the central government's own departments do not accept the >> UDID >> - railways for instance insists that one should procure the card that it >> is >> issuing. Every year several cases are highlighted of MBBS aspirants whose >> UDID cards are rejected and a reverification of their disability done at >> designated centres. This defeats the very purpose of the UDID. >> >> I am not going into the various issues with the procurement of UDID >> that >> people face, that is a different matter. >> >> The NPRD's interest is to see that all disabled are able to get UDID in >> >> a >> hassle free process. When the disability certificate is replaced by the >> UDID >> and becomes valid for all purposes, it is natural that it will become >> mandatory (like the certificate earlier) for availing any scheme. >> >> What we have asked for is the difficulties that people are facing in >> the >> procurement of the UDID so that we can take it up with the government. >> Let >> me make it loud and clear. We have not and do not intend to stall or >> oppose >> the UDID. >> >> All the best sathiyo. >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 8:52 AM Harish Kotian <hpkot...@outlook.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> It is my personal opinion that UDID should be made mandatory for >> availing all services for the disabled.It should be the only >> identification >> means for authenticating disability. >> >> >> >> >> Having said this, all the services should be put in place before the >> D >> date and scaling up should be fully factored in. There are numerous >> benefits to us through UDID. We should not fall into the temptation of >> stalling the effort and rather we should clearly not join them. >> >> >> >> >> There may be some difficulty for sometime. That always happens during >> transition. As what they say, you don't throw the baby with the bathwater >> >> >> >> >> I am well aware, there is going to be sharp reactions to my line of >> thought, however I am convinced UDID is progressive and disabled friendly >> and this is the most important thing which can make huge changes for our >> benefit. >> >> >> >> >> Harish >> >> >> >> On 19/03/2023 06:43, bhawani shankar verma wrote: >> >> UDID should not be mada mandatory. we must fight collectively for >> it. >> >> >> On Sat, 18 Mar 2023, 9:09 pm Amar Jain, <amarj...@amarjain.com> >> wrote: >> >> I would like to help you out to address your concerns. I am a >> corporate lawyer and have an interface with the authorities you are >> struggling with. >> >> Is there a way we can speak? I am reachable on 9892622230. Thank >> you. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On 18-Mar-2023, at 12:55 PM, Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan) >> <ykhan...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Dear Muralidharan, >> >> Thank you for taking up these matters. I pray you meet some >> success. In India it seems a lot of this is going on: They make something >> inaccessible to achieve, manditory to achieve. Everybody should have 5 >> biscuits each from the packet of biscuits, but there is an empty biscuit >> packet on the table even before the distribution to all the attendees. >> This >> is my experience having come to India. Very sad and ironical. Aadhaar for >> the blind is impossible here in Vrindavana because the agents say the >> retina >> scan cannot be bypassed. Without Aadhaar I cannot get UDID either. When I >> went to buy my home, they refused because a blind person cannot own >> property. We have to be linked with a sighted person who has Aadhaar so >> that >> the property can be registered with the sighted person’s name. I am very >> hurt by this behaviour in India, and there seems to be no authority in >> place >> who really cares to actually do something. >> Can you please help me? Very pained and frustrated. Sometimes I >> feel life was better under our former captivity of slave-owners and later >> the African leadership who hate Indians in Africa. I came to India to >> become >> free. How wrong was I? Now having returned home after 4 generations away, >> >> I >> return home only to find we are slaves here to a highly corrupt and >> disorganized administration. For example, the National number for the >> Aadhaar Helpdesk is 1947. Guess what! Only problem is it does not >> exist!!! >> >> Thanks a lot however for doing what you can. Evidently you are >> fighting a very difficult battle and my heart is with you. May Bhagavan >> Sri >> Ramachandra who was the most organized and loved King on Earth, walk with >> you – no – carry you through this fight. >> >> Yoganathan Khandoo (Yamuna Jivana Dasa) >> From: Muralidharan Vishwanath >> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2023 11:39 AM >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> Subject: [AI] Issues with UDID >> >> March 18, 2023 >> >> >> >> As all of you are aware, the UDID is being made mandatory from >> April 1, 2023 for registering for central government schemes. >> >> >> >> This even while more than half of the disabled who have >> certificates, have not been issued UDID or have enrolled but not been >> issued >> certificates, or have been unable to enroll for it, due to various >> issues. >> >> >> >> UDID is being made compulsory even when central government’s >> own >> ministries/departments viz. railways, for admissions to MBBS, for >> recruitment in jobs, or many institutes of higher learning are refusing >> to >> accept the validity of the card >> >> >> >> The NPRD has written to the DEPwD objecting to the mandatory >> imposition of the UDID. >> >> >> >> It has also raised the issue of the refusal by various >> departments >> to accept its validity. >> >> >> >> Notwithstanding this, we would like to list before the >> department, >> the issues that the disabled are facing with regard to procuring UDID. >> >> >> >> One of the main issues that has been identified especially in >> the >> rural areas is about non-availability of seva kendras, private centres >> charging hefty amounts, or they being far away including their >> inaccessibility. 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