Yamuna Ji, I would like to express my sincere gratitude for your thorough exploration and the invaluable insights you provided regarding the Prudence screen reader's compatibility with Imobilepay. While I may not be a frequent user of Immobilepay, your feedback has been instrumental in identifying potential issues. I believe it is crucial to share this feedback with the Prudence screen reader developers.
With warm regards, VIJAY On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 8:47 PM Yoganathan Khandoo <ykhan...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Vijay Kumar Ji, I have just tried the Prudence screen-reader and was > impressed to find that you are right, it does allow us to go further in > accessing the iMobile App of ICICI Bank. > It allows me to navigate into the sub-menus of the Transact main menu by > using "Default navigation" of Prudence, and navigat by swiping up from the > available second menu’s "Services" option that does show up. When we swipe > up, this reveals and navigates through the remaining options, and Prudence > shows a double copy of each menu item. One of those sounds the link tone > and the other does not, for each copy. If we then go to the non-link copy > and double-tap, it will activate that menu, such as the "Send money" > option. So yes I’ve now gone further, thanks to your suggestion. > Now from the Send money page, the next challenge is to choose a recipient. > I turn off Prudence and turn on Talkback to use Braille keyboard to enter a > name of recipient in the edit field. However although iMobile supposedly > displays a drop-down of recipients to choose matching that selection, > neither Talkback nor Prudence can see that drop-down. > Another observation is that at this point only swiping reveals items and > controls to both screen-readers. Touching the screen does not allow > navigation nor reporting of the display. > Anyway I’m keeping this discussion on the group just in case anyone has > further thoughts. > > Trust you are all well, and sorry for typos as I am venturing to type this > E-mail from my phone for the first time using Talkback Braille keyboard. > > Kind regards, > > Yamuna Jivana Dasa. > > On Mon, Oct 23, 2023, 14:12 Vijay Kumar P.V.S. <vijay.palakod...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Thank you very much for your Description. try prudence screen reader with >> this app. i think it is working better than Talkback. >> >> With warm regards >> VIJAY >> >> On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 9:13 PM Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo) < >> ykhan...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi friends, >>> >>> >>> >>> If you have ever tried to tinker around with the iMobile App from ICICI >>> Bank, and you found yourself disappointed, fear not, because working >>> together I believe I might be onto something useful. Please read on as I >>> have interesting news to share. >>> >>> >>> >>> Taking sighted help from my son, I managed to navigate the iMobile Pay >>> app of ICICI Bank with some very limited degree of success. >>> >>> However I discovered from this that Talkback itself may be configured to >>> make the ICICI Bank App more accessible to us. >>> >>> But first I need to describe the interface so you will understand more >>> clearly. >>> >>> >>> >>> After logging into the iMobile App, there are main tabs: >>> >>> “Transact”, “Travel and Shop”, and “Discover”. >>> >>> Under Transact: >>> >>> “Send money”, “Bill payment”, “Recharge”, “Account and FD/RD”, “Cards”, >>> “Loans”, “Invest and insure”, “UPI Payments” and “Services”. >>> >>> >>> >>> The above-mentioned sub-menus of the first "Transact" main tab are >>> context-dependent, so that they appear only when you touch the main >>> "Transact" tab. When you tap on Transact, Talkback activates the menu, but >>> does not then see the sub-menus below it, except the Services sub-menu item. >>> >>> >>> >>> However, if we roter to navigate via links (swipe up and down in with >>> Talkback until we reach the navigate by Links), then we can swipe up to >>> navigate by links to reach the rest of the sub-menu items. >>> >>> However, when we find an item we are looking for, let's say "Send >>> money", then if we double-tap on it, Talkback does not activate the item. I >>> also tried using the Talkback menu with 3 fingers single tap, going to >>> Links, here it sees only the active link, in our example "Send money" >>> because that was where we last landed on, but if we execute it from here >>> also it does not activate. >>> >>> >>> >>> So, If we can get Talkback to activate such context-dependent menu >>> items, I believe this will be the beginning of accessibility of the eMobile >>> App of the ICICI Bank, even if it will require navigating and activating >>> the sub-menus of the Transact tab only by links navigation. >>> >>> >>> >>> We know that Talkback navigates through these as if they are links. If >>> it can then execute the item the way it activates links, we may be onto >>> some accessibility here. >>> >>> >>> >>> Anyone familiar with the Talkback development team here? >>> >>> >>> >>> Looking forward to some exciting possibilities. To conclude, if a >>> developer refuses to adjust the build of their App for accessibility needs, >>> then if at all possible if we can make slight modifications to the >>> screen-reader to see or activate such items, it can actually make a >>> difference to other Apps also using similar controls used in the >>> development toolkit, if Talkback learns how to see, navigate and execute >>> those newer controls. >>> >>> >>> >>> Looking forward to further replies. If you wish for a more technical >>> discussion you may instead write me off-list. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> Yamuna Jivana dasa >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Disclaimer: >>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >>> the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >>> >>> 2. 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