Hi
I think suggesting Microsoft to take over NVDA is a very bad idea.
The present dispensation of MS is accessibility friendly and we have
seen huge and significant enhancements presently. I think it is more
person driven than process. Unsure this will continue with change of
guard in future.
Screen reader is a very complex software and very vital to visually
disabled users. We were having more than half dozen to choose from in
the past. This has now shrunk to about 4. Any further reduction is going
to adversely impact us.
Please don't treat this, as a matter of fact and casually without fully
understanding its ramification.
Each screen reader has its own unique strengths, the user can
selectively use them if there is a bouquet of options to choose from.
NVDA built a very promising eco system. We should not tinker with it.
Regards
Harish
On 27-03-2025 08:39, Mujtaba Merchant wrote:
I am also with this thought that microsoft should fund NVDA or
integrate it with windows.
Sincerely,
*Mujtaba Merchant*
Bangalore | INDIA
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On Mar 27, 2025, at 8:26 AM, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
<[email protected]> wrote:
I am concerned on subject line of this mail.
There is no monopoly of JAWS. One can purchase other screen readers,
such as Supernova, which costs lower than JAWS. It is ironic that JAWS
has enabled us to reach this stage where we can argue about JAWS.
Thirty years ago, when Windows 95 was released by Microsoft, JAWS was
the only option available.
My suggestion is that microsoft should fund NVDA or integrate it with
windows.
On 3/26/2025 10:28 PM, Ashutosh Singhal wrote:
Glad to share that I have got response from Microsoft on LinkedIn
post and day before yesterday I did talk with another Microsoft
employee who is Program Manager of Narrator. I have also got response
on these feedbacks: 1. Missing Screen Curtain Feature: A screen
curtain (screen hide) is a crucial privacy tool for visually impaired
users but is not available in Narrator.
2. No Automatic Language Switching: Narrator cannot automatically
switch between languages like English and Hindi on non-Microsoft
platforms (e.g., YouTube or other web content), even if both language
voices are installed.
3. Voice Output Speed: Voice output speed needs improvement to cater
to visually impaired users who prefer fast TTS responses, similar to
NVDA Espeak Synthesizer.
4. Lack of OCR and Image Description for Indian Languages: Narrator
does not support inbuilt OCR and Image Description for any Indian
language, including Hindi.
5. Reset Settings Feature: A reset option for Narrator settings is
absent, limiting users’ ability to customize settings efficiently.
The LinkedIn Post:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/sugamyata-ashutosh-singhal-823543289_techforall-inclusion-assistivetechnology-activity-7308057003438878720-pRS-?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_android&rcm=ACoAAEYGaNsBRMelVAsVe0usYk1hxlY-d_ErcVY
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On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 at 09:50, 'PAUL MUDDHA' via AccessIndia
<[email protected]> wrote:
In Canara Bank; a nationalized bank did not provide jaws software
till 2014 and after I fought very hard the bank is now providing
jaws software to all employees and including the updates often.
Cheers
*From:*[email protected]
<[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Yamuna Jivana Dasa
*Sent:* Saturday, March 22, 2025 5:41 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* RE: [AI] Microsoft Narrator bad condition and JAWS
monopoly
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Hi Pranav,
This is certainly not unique to India. In South Africa I worked
for FNB (First National Bank) and they too refused for many years
to provide Jaws on my workstation. Even when they did (after much
haggling from my end), there was no hope for an upgrade since
Jaws 2017 which they finally provided to me in the year 2018.
We’re talking about a National Bank here. So that’s perhaps true
in many countries, despite legislation existing protecting people
with disabilities in the workplace. The legal framework is one
thing and practical implementation and enforcement is far from
applied.
Have a good day Folks.
*From:*[email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Pranav Lal
*Sent:* Friday, March 21, 2025 5:48 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* RE: [AI] Microsoft Narrator bad condition and JAWS
monopoly
Hi,
I work in India but at a foreign bank. Over here, both jaws and
nvda are used.
However, these programs are packaged using Microsoft intune for
installation and are running a few versions behind. This is the
case with many large enterprises.
It is ironic that companies are uncomfortable with open source
programs. A large chunk of the server stack is open source. In
addition, it is easier to audit the source code for flaws.
Pranav
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