Hi, I am with harish and Mujtaba . My question is how many users from our community have donated to n v d a's improvements. long back microsoft purchased the skype and now they are killing by replacing the teams which have limited functionality.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 7:14 AM Pranav Lal <[email protected]> wrote: > And who is going to fund this endeavor and maintain it? > > > > Investing in fixing NVDA bugs is certainly one way to go. > > *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On > Behalf Of *BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA > *Sent:* Thursday, March 27, 2025 6:22 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AI] Microsoft Narrator bad condition and JAWS monopoly > > > > We have many software experts in this mailing group. Why don't you all > collectively collaborate with NVDA or develop a new tool? I recall the > Windows XP era, when SAFA was developed by the NAB Delhi team. > > On 3/27/2025 5:36 PM, Saurav Hegde wrote: > > Hi, > > I agree with you, let NVDA be the way it is. > > Either, Microsoft improves Narrator itself to the point that we don't need > NVDA or Companies and bodies stop this nonsense excuse of prohibiting NVDA. > > I remember, someone close to me worked in a good IT company, not visually > impaired. > > However, she told me that the laptop she got from her office had NVDA > preinstalled, so it's a mind block that organisations are having I feel. > > Here, the advocacy part comes, for some reason our softwares are bad. > > > > Regards, > > Saurav > > Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 8:39 AM Mujtaba Merchant <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I am also with this thought that microsoft should fund NVDA or integrate > it with windows. > > Sincerely, > > > > *Mujtaba Merchant* > > Bangalore | INDIA > > Sent from my iPhone ® > *Help support my causes:* NVDA > <https://www.nvaccess.org/support-us/#donation-support> | Billion Strong > <https://www.billion-strong.org/donate-today/> | EyeWay > <http://eyeway.org.in/?q=donate-0> > > > > > On Mar 27, 2025, at 8:26 AM, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > I am concerned on subject line of this mail. > > There is no monopoly of JAWS. One can purchase other screen readers, such > as Supernova, which costs lower than JAWS. It is ironic that JAWS has > enabled us to reach this stage where we can argue about JAWS. Thirty years > ago, when Windows 95 was released by Microsoft, JAWS was the only option > available. > My suggestion is that microsoft should fund NVDA or integrate it with > windows. > > On 3/26/2025 10:28 PM, Ashutosh Singhal wrote: > > Glad to share that I have got response from Microsoft on LinkedIn post and > day before yesterday I did talk with another Microsoft employee who is > Program Manager of Narrator. I have also got response on these feedbacks: > 1. Missing Screen Curtain Feature: A screen curtain (screen hide) is a > crucial privacy tool for visually impaired users but is not available in > Narrator. > > 2. No Automatic Language Switching: Narrator cannot automatically switch > between languages like English and Hindi on non-Microsoft platforms (e.g., > YouTube or other web content), even if both language voices are installed. > > 3. Voice Output Speed: Voice output speed needs improvement to cater to > visually impaired users who prefer fast TTS responses, similar to NVDA > Espeak Synthesizer. > > 4. Lack of OCR and Image Description for Indian Languages: Narrator does > not support inbuilt OCR and Image Description for any Indian language, > including Hindi. > > 5. Reset Settings Feature: A reset option for Narrator settings is absent, > limiting users’ ability to customize settings efficiently. > > The LinkedIn Post: > https://www.linkedin.com/posts/sugamyata-ashutosh-singhal-823543289_techforall-inclusion-assistivetechnology-activity-7308057003438878720-pRS-?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_android&rcm=ACoAAEYGaNsBRMelVAsVe0usYk1hxlY-d_ErcVY > > > > On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 at 09:50, 'PAUL MUDDHA' via AccessIndia < > [email protected]> wrote: > > In Canara Bank; a nationalized bank did not provide jaws software till > 2014 and after I fought very hard the bank is now providing jaws software > to all employees and including the updates often. > > Cheers > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On > Behalf Of *Yamuna Jivana Dasa > *Sent:* Saturday, March 22, 2025 5:41 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [AI] Microsoft Narrator bad condition and JAWS monopoly > > > > *CAUTION:* This email is originated from outside Canara Bank. Do not > click any links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and > know that the content is safe. > > Hi Pranav, > > This is certainly not unique to India. In South Africa I worked for FNB > (First National Bank) and they too refused for many years to provide Jaws > on my workstation. Even when they did (after much haggling from my end), > there was no hope for an upgrade since Jaws 2017 which they finally > provided to me in the year 2018. > > We’re talking about a National Bank here. So that’s perhaps true in many > countries, despite legislation existing protecting people with disabilities > in the workplace. The legal framework is one thing and practical > implementation and enforcement is far from applied. > > > > Have a good day Folks. > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Pranav Lal > *Sent:* Friday, March 21, 2025 5:48 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [AI] Microsoft Narrator bad condition and JAWS monopoly > > > > Hi, > > > > I work in India but at a foreign bank. Over here, both jaws and nvda are > used. > > > > However, these programs are packaged using Microsoft intune for > installation and are running a few versions behind. This is the case with > many large enterprises. > > > > It is ironic that companies are uncomfortable with open source programs. A > large chunk of the server stack is open source. In addition, it is easier > to audit the source code for flaws. > > > > > > Pranav > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/05ec01db99f6%24ac04c580%24040e5080%24%40gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/05ec01db99f6%24ac04c580%24040e5080%24%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/004801db9b23%248d14e8c0%24a73eba40%24%40gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/004801db9b23%248d14e8c0%24a73eba40%24%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > [image: Logo] > > [image: Logo] > > "Azadi Ka Amrit Mahotsav" > > DISCLAIMER:This email may contain privileged information and is intended > solely for the addressee, and any disclosure of this information is > strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this mail by > mistake, please inform the sender immediately and delete this mail. Any > information expressed in this mail does not necessarily reflect the views > of CANARA BANK. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this > email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those > of the Bank. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for > the presence of viruses. The sender declares that no liability can be cast > upon the sender for any error or omissions in the contents of the message > that arise, as a result of e-mail transmission and further declares that > the sender cannot be made liable for any loss suffered by any person, on > account of having acted upon any messages which is vitiated by error, > omissions or interception. > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/PN3PPF8077D3E496292A0ED5C74AEE7E82CB4A42%40PN3PPF8077D3E49.INDPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM > <https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/PN3PPF8077D3E496292A0ED5C74AEE7E82CB4A42%40PN3PPF8077D3E49.INDPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAFL6VgKYZQe4kEWVQHEgyT_qfZ7cMAnDgeB%3Dm7tNbqs_Z4wXNQ%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAFL6VgKYZQe4kEWVQHEgyT_qfZ7cMAnDgeB%3Dm7tNbqs_Z4wXNQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/2f402273-a8e2-4058-8dd4-79bea2611817%40gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/2f402273-a8e2-4058-8dd4-79bea2611817%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/2B3DFCA7-4DCA-4D3F-B84E-0E6AA2A4019D%40gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/2B3DFCA7-4DCA-4D3F-B84E-0E6AA2A4019D%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAMDaTCacEGhS0QYSyJOPpkLz0imapdgAMvVDEPz5428Bbe-h%2BA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAMDaTCacEGhS0QYSyJOPpkLz0imapdgAMvVDEPz5428Bbe-h%2BA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/90fefba6-ffaa-42c9-95b9-40f9b7be0e2b%40gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/90fefba6-ffaa-42c9-95b9-40f9b7be0e2b%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/02bd01db9f82%24f482f6b0%24dd88e410%24%40gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/02bd01db9f82%24f482f6b0%24dd88e410%24%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAKwMOJ0UxUtcFp10S9FU3C1cEFdT0AEyRJ3wanBLdq4jDM83GQ%40mail.gmail.com.
