Okay, if the point is to have one consider whether a blind person can visualize 
the things in absence of visual stimuli and enjoy the experience using  
remaining senses coupled with such a visualization, then I would say that a 
person can visualize only to the extent he/she has actually seen  the light or 
objects with eyes in the past.
Here, the people who say we can visualize are late blind.
I, being congenitally blind and having light perception, can visualize to the 
same extent as I have actually seen the things.
For example, I could distinguish a bus from a truck by seeing its front hood 
only in the broad day light.
So, I can visualize, not even in the dreams,  the whole composition of a truck.

Essentially, I mean, a person who has not visually witnessed the snow falling 
and glowing, or does not have any such analogous visual experience,  can not 
visualize it in the same way, she can only borrow its descriptions 
half-heartedly, along with other sensory inputs.
To give another example, I can never visualize beauty of the female form that 
is seen with eyes and is sufficient to uproot vishwamitra from his penance,  
but others who are blind can, for they have witnessed the appearance of a 
person visually.

Still, I opine that article was not making this point. It was extolling silence 
and hinting at the possibility of a blind man enjoying the snowfall primarily 
to his being silent witness...
Regards


Rajesh Asudani

Assistant General Manager (PPS),
Reserve Bank of India
Nagpur
09420397185
O: 0712 2806676
Res: 0712 2591349
Doth God exact day-labour, light denied?"
John Milton


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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:46 AM
To: Geetha Shamanna; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] How could a blind man watch the snow?

More wonderful thing is to have it discussed in the list!!!!
Wonder whether it has become a place to discuss philosophy!!!!!
Yes,
superimposition of blindness to bring home value of silence is a cheap gimmick 
and I have heard long sermons as to how closing your outer eyes or having them 
closed as a result of blindness is a wonderful blessing as it opens inner 
so-called eyes and elevates you to a higher level of appreciation etc. etc.
The above article, as per my opinion, falls into the same category of 
non-rational subjective experience without any useful objective appeal... and 
make a blind person escape goat, too bad.
Regards


Rajesh Asudani

Assistant General Manager (PPS),
Reserve Bank of India
Nagpur
09420397185
O: 0712 2806676
Res: 0712 2591349
Doth God exact day-labour, light denied?"
John Milton


-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Geetha Shamanna
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:09 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] How could a blind man watch the snow?

Wonder why people write such rubbish in articles. This article is about the
significance of silence, and the blind man watching the snow analogy is
totally out of context.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kotian, H P" <hpkot...@rbi.org.in>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:34 AM
Subject: [AI] How could a blind man watch the snow?


Hello all

I am allowing this posting for members to reflect on the mindset / enquiry;
prevailing about  prevalent notions on visual disability.
Harish Kotian
Moderator


hi

not sure whether this is an OT. Thought this might interest some of AI
members. If you share this view please post it.
regards
rohith

Saying it with silence

There was this very beautiful line that I read in Orhan Pamuk's novel, 'My
Name Is Red'. He wrote about a blind man watching the snowfall and smiling
to himself. That line stayed with me for a long, long time.
How could a blind man watch the snow?

I pondered. I know that when the sight is taken away, the other senses
become sharper. The blind man must have felt the cold air around him with
the tiny snowflakes brushing his cheek; he must have caught a puffy, wet
ball in his hand and had felt it melt in his palms. But did he hear the snow
falling?

Somehow I believe that he actually listened to the snowfall, more than he
felt it. He must have listened to the silence of the falling snow.
He listened, because he was silent inside, in his own wonderful and special
way.

Often silence makes people uncomfortable, accustomed as they are to the
noise and commotion of the world, but silence is all about coming home to
ourselves.

When we sit in silence we relax and slip into an exquisite nothingness. We
look within and drop our opinionated mind and learn to feel everything
around us more deeply.

When the incessant chatter of the mind stops and we let the quietness around
submerge us, something sacred is born within. Nietzsche said that our
greatest experiences are our quietest moments.

Needless to say, it is only in silence that we are capable of listening.
Like that blind man watching the snowfall and smiling to himself, we learn
to listen more when we are silent.

Silence is the basic ingredient for entering into our intuitive mind and to
resist the cacophony of meaningless noises outside.

It is interesting to note how Silent and Listen have same letters but are
arranged differently.

We humans have a tendency to talk more and listen less; much of it is
because we have forgotten the art of waiting and allowing ourselves to grow
silent within.

Nature has no trouble in remembering this art. Nature thrives on silence. We
never hear the footsteps of moon when it appears on the sky. We don't hear a
loud bang when the sun comes out and the stars burst open in the sky. Their
arrival is always wrapped in a glorious silence. Look how the tree knows it!
It remains bare, beautiful and still; waiting for the new leaves, knowing
that the old has gone and the new will soon be coming. The tree waits in
silence.

Just like tree, when we are silent and waiting, something beautiful inside
us keeps on growing and it is this stillness and silence that gives birth to
creativity.

Often it happens that when we wait in silence, life rushes back to fill
those crevices in our souls. There are times when silence becomes the most
potent way of communication and is more effective than words.
We all have at least one memory when we have faced that eloquent silence of
our elders such as parents or teachers when we have felt a cold fear at the
bristling silence of their fury. When their silence had scared us more than
angry words. When just one quiet look had had us behaving better than a
harsh reprimand or scolding.

Lovers all over the world are said to communicate with silence.
Understand each other's silence. The famous telepathy between two people who
have strong feelings for each other happens in a compelling silence.

In a business world the salesmen are taught the art of persuasive silence.
After he has urged the potential client to buy some product and the customer
is contemplating quietly over what the salesman has described, the well
trained salesman remains absolutely silent during this important hiatus.
Often he gains his sale by using this important tool.

Undeniably, silence needs a special kind of power and authority of mind and
saying it with silence needs a certain 'command of language'.
To say nothing is often more difficult than expressing the anger, love and
betrayal with words.

However, being silent with a natural and calm stillness within is like a
spiritual reflex. Analyze it too much or think too much about it and it
degenerates itself into something superficial and edgy. If we become
self-conscious about silence then we begin to work against it.
We rush to fill it with inane talks and nervous gestures, and the silence
loses its value.

But we can certainly develop this powerful way of communicating by
practicing a calm mind. By realizing that between stimulus and response,
there is a space and in that space is our power to choose our response
because in our response lies our growth and our freedom.
That "space" is silence.

The French mathematician Blaise Pascal said "All man's miseries derive from
not being able to sit quiet in a room alone."

As these beautiful lyrics of the song 'Sounds of silence' by Simon and
Garfunkel say:

"People talking without speaking,
People hearing without listening,
People writing songs that voices never share And no one dared Disturb the
sound of silence.

Hear my words that I might teach you;
Take my arms that I might reach you.
But my words like silent raindrops fell, And echoed In the wells of
silence."

Each time when I feel that I just cannot take another step forward in life,
I seek refuge in silence. And sure enough I get recharged with fresh dose of
faith, hope and confidence.



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