On 10/2/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Send AccessIndia mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of AccessIndia digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Want to learn ubuntu (Ravi Paul) > 2. Re: Google Chrome with JAWS 8? (moiz tundawala) > 3. Re: Incorporation of VI in master circular on customer > service byRBI (Amar Jain) > 4. Re: Google Chrome with JAWS 8? (Amar Jain) > 5. software upgrades; pl clarify (Subramani L) > 6. Re: Google Chrome with JAWS 8? (Ravi Paul) > 7. Re: software upgrades; pl clarify (Pranav Lal) > 8. Re: AccessIndia Digest, Vol 42, Issue 3 (allaka umamahesh) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 13:06:09 +0530 > From: Ravi Paul <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AI] Want to learn ubuntu > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi, did you visit the official website which is: > http://www.ubuntu.com/ > You can start from there. Probably, you can also visit: > http://www.digitaldarragh.com/ ) and > ( http://live.gnome.org/Orca ) > Hope this helps, > Regards, Ravi Paul > > On 10/1/09, GANESH GOLHA <[email protected]> wrote: >> hi >> >> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 7:17 PM, dinesh thole <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hello friends, >>> I am currently downloading ubuntu version 9.04. >>> I want to learn ubuntu >>> For now I shall boot using a cd/dvd rather than installing ubuntu. >>> Please guide me upon getting started with ubuntu with the orca screen >>> reader. >>> Please let me know if there are any tutorials for learning ubuntu using >>> orca. >>> Thanking you all. >>> Warm regards. >>> Dinesh thole. >>> Email: [email protected] >>> Skype id: dinesh.thole >>> >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> [email protected] the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >> >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] >> with >> the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:27:54 +0530 > From: moiz tundawala <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AI] Google Chrome with JAWS 8? > To: accessindia <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Ravi, > I uninstalled Firefox from add/remove in control panel. How do you > erase it entirely before reinstalling? Control L and Alt D takes me to > the location where the web address is typed but then I cannot get JAWS > to read the entire URL. My basic requirement is to copy paste > useful/interesting links to be put up on social networking sites, > forwarding to friends or store for future referencing. > Moiz. > > -- > Moiz Tundawala > 5th Year, B.A./B.Sc. LLB Hons., > West Bengal National University of Juridical Sciences, > NUJS Bhavan, 12 LB, Sector III, Salt Lake City, > Kolkata, 700 098 > > Ph: +919874396052 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:31:04 +0530 > From: "Amar Jain" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AI] Incorporation of VI in master circular on customer > service byRBI > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <008f01ca433e$e72b7a20$f99ef...@annu3c1f952a78> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Pranam Rajesh Sir the Great! > > Hope you are perfectly all right. > Well, this is really good step of RBI to include that circular into master > circular. > Actually such steps should be taken by all the departments if they have > master circular, they should include all provisions. > Many a times I have seen that even after showing circular for anything, > authorities create problems. But if its their in the master circular, then > this will remove all objections. > For this, I must praise NSDL also, they have included guidelines for opening > account of blind in their master circular. > My this mail surves nothing, means no information, but this is to appriciate > and express my gratitude for whatever has happend. > Thanks for this good information. > Best Regards, > Amar. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:02 PM > Subject: [AI] Incorporation of VI in master circular on customer service > byRBI > > > Friends > RBI has incorporated provisions relating to banking facilities to visually > challenged in master circular on customer service > This can be obtained from: > http://rbidocs.rbi.org.in/rdocs/notification/PDFs/57MCATT010709.pdf > Further it has necessarily to be kept by all the branches of the banks. > So, I hope the problems of producing the RBI circular, or objections that it > is not signed, etc. should not arise. > The burden of proof is on the banks now, as it would be absurd if they claim > that we don't have the master circular even on customer service... > > However, if anybody chooses not to obey law, (Which is unfortunately law of > the land in India), then he or she has complete immunity in Indian setup. > (Smile). > > > The portion is reproduced below: > "10. Providing banking facilities to Visually Impaired Persons > > > > In order to facilitate access to banking facilities by visually challenged > persons, banks are advised to offer banking facilities including cheque book > > > > facility / operation of ATM / locker etc. to the visually challenged as they > are > legally competent to contract. > > > > In the Case No. 2791/2003, the Honourable Court of Chief Commissioner for > Persons with Disabilities had passed Orders dated 05.09.2005 which was > forwarded by IBA to all the member banks vide their circular letter dated > October 20, 2005. In the above Order, the Honorable Court has instructed > that banks should offer all the banking facilities including cheque book > facility, > ATM facility and locker facility to the visually challenged and also assist > them > in withdrawal of cash. > > > > Further, in Para 14 of the above Order, the Honorable Court has observed > that visually impaired persons cannot be denied the facility of cheque book, > locker and ATM on the possibility of risk in operating / using the said > facility, > as the element of risk is involved in case of other customers as well. > > > > Banks should therefore ensure that all the banking facilities such as > cheque book facility including third party cheques, ATM facility, Net > banking facility, locker facility, retail loans, credit cards etc. are > invariably offered to the visually challenged without any discrimination. > > > > Banks may also advise their branches to render all possible assistance to > the > visually challenged for availing the various banking facilities. > > > > 10.1 Guidelines framed by IBA based on the judgment of > > Chief Commissioner for Persons with Disabilities > > > > Indian Banks' Association has framed operational guidelines for > implementation of its member banks on providing banking facilities to > persons > with disabilities. Banks should adopt / follow the operational guidelines > meticulously. > > > > 10.2 Talking ATMs with Braille keypads to facilitate > > use by persons with visual impairment > > > > Banks should make at least one third of new ATMs installed as talking > ATMs with Braille keypads and place them strategically in consultation > with other banks to ensure that at least one talking ATM with Braille > > > > keypad is generally available in each locality for catering to needs of > visually impaired persons. Banks may also bring the locations of such > talking > ATMs to the notice of their visually impaired customers. > > " > > Rajesh Asudani > > Assistant General Manager (PPS), > Reserve Bank of India > Nagpur > 09420397185 > O: 0712 2806676 > Res: 0712 2591349 > Doth God exact day-labour, light denied?" > John Milton > > > ________________________________ > Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, > review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in > this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you > have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or > telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any > attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for > the presence of viruses. The Bank accepts no liability for any damage caused > by any virus transmitted by this email. > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] with > the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:42:43 +0530 > From: "Amar Jain" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AI] Google Chrome with JAWS 8? > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <00a101ca4340$880c5d00$f99ef...@annu3c1f952a78> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Since this post does not contain previous discussions on this topic, please > excuse me if it has been already said. > Can you try insert A for reading the location bar? > If I remember that works. > However I am not using ff now a days. > Anyway whatever was going on in this topic, and since you wish to remove ff > completely, do as follows: > > Go to: > C:\documents and settings\your user\application data, and remove the folder > may be named as mozila or firefox. YOu will find that. > > And now go to: > > Registry editor I know you know it, then delete the mozila key from Current > user\softwares and local machines\softwares. > Generally the key for mozila only exist in the current_user\softwares. > If I can be of any help, then please let me know about this problem in > detail, since looking at the subject makes me believe that it has something > to do with crome. > Regards > Amar Jain > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "moiz tundawala" <[email protected]> > To: "accessindia" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 2:27 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Google Chrome with JAWS 8? > > > Ravi, > I uninstalled Firefox from add/remove in control panel. How do you > erase it entirely before reinstalling? Control L and Alt D takes me to > the location where the web address is typed but then I cannot get JAWS > to read the entire URL. My basic requirement is to copy paste > useful/interesting links to be put up on social networking sites, > forwarding to friends or store for future referencing. > Moiz. > > -- > Moiz Tundawala > 5th Year, B.A./B.Sc. LLB Hons., > West Bengal National University of Juridical Sciences, > NUJS Bhavan, 12 LB, Sector III, Salt Lake City, > Kolkata, 700 098 > > Ph: +919874396052 > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] with > the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:24:43 +0530 > From: "Subramani L" <[email protected]> > Subject: [AI] software upgrades; pl clarify > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <fda23f70e778f94293c28128b654e11c01e82...@dhtpmlmail.deccanherald.co.in> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Folks: > > One of the major problems with any proprietary software is the problem > of upgrades. I like upgrades and like to keep my system up-to-date, but > should I keep paying for the license each time I do that? This is a > particular problem with screen readers and OCR software. As companies > working on them keep releasing upgrades or newer versions virtually once > in six months, it would be harder for anyone in India to keep updating > the software --it is not updating, but virtually buying the software > anew each time we want to upgrade it. Upgrading is also important since > each upgrade improves the performance and makes life better for us. For > instance, JAWS version 5.0 had a problem with the edit fields whenever I > visited search sites. I have to press enter to on the forms mode to type > in the search terms. Normally the forms mode should go off once I press > the enter key, but sometimes it won't go off. As a result I would find > my screen reader hopelessly stuck in a kind of no man's land, muted and > dysfunctional. > > This is often frustrating for someone who almost breathe free because > there is a search site that keeps clearing your doubts that arises once > in two minutes. With JAWS 10.0 (I am sure even in the earlier versions) > this problem was fixed. I no longer have to on the forms mode to type > something whenever I confront an edit field but simply type what I want > to once the cursor is inside the edit field. > > Also, upgrades improves the way screen readers work with webpages, > improves the way it understands words and other issues such as handling > Rich Internet Applications --which is one of the problems all of us have > to face. Folks at accessibility space have already worked out something > called ARIA or (Acccessible RIA), which is supposed to make accessing > webpages easier if they are not in simple html. But the question is, how > best the screen readers -particularly the older versions- can be made to > work with newer technological enhancements like AREA? I don't know if > there is an answer available, but upgrading screen readers seems the > most logical thing to do. And the whole thing starts once again like > Sisyphean myth. Given the limitations in the number of developers for > the screen readers (which I don't know how big), we don't know how > things can be made better otherwise? I am not technically qualified to > say if this is exactly the case, but this looks like the case to me. I > would like someone to comment on this. > > Subramani > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:36:57 +0530 > From: Ravi Paul <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AI] Google Chrome with JAWS 8? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > Hi Moiz, did you try to arbitrarily copy and paste the URL from the > address bar into the place you want? I mean, without regard for > whether or not JAWS reads the address; I have a different kind of > problem that nun the less causes the same problem ? the nonreading of > the address. > If you want to go to registry editor, you should press "regedit" from > the run dialogue box; %appdata% from the same to go to the current > user's folder. > delete a folder named "mozilla" in that folder after uninstalling > firefox the same way you had done; do the editting in the registry > editor only if your sure, as it could damage your system if you > wrongly edit something else... > Sorry for this rather long one, but would you be willing to experiment > with NVDA or for that matter, do a cleen uninstall of JAWS and > reinstalling it > > On 10/2/09, Amar Jain <[email protected]> wrote: >> Since this post does not contain previous discussions on this topic, >> please >> excuse me if it has been already said. >> Can you try insert A for reading the location bar? >> If I remember that works. >> However I am not using ff now a days. >> Anyway whatever was going on in this topic, and since you wish to remove >> ff >> completely, do as follows: >> >> Go to: >> C:\documents and settings\your user\application data, and remove the >> folder >> may be named as mozila or firefox. YOu will find that. >> >> And now go to: >> >> Registry editor I know you know it, then delete the mozila key from >> Current >> user\softwares and local machines\softwares. >> Generally the key for mozila only exist in the current_user\softwares. >> If I can be of any help, then please let me know about this problem in >> detail, since looking at the subject makes me believe that it has >> something >> to do with crome. >> Regards >> Amar Jain >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "moiz tundawala" <[email protected]> >> To: "accessindia" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 2:27 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Google Chrome with JAWS 8? >> >> >> Ravi, >> I uninstalled Firefox from add/remove in control panel. How do you >> erase it entirely before reinstalling? Control L and Alt D takes me to >> the location where the web address is typed but then I cannot get JAWS >> to read the entire URL. My basic requirement is to copy paste >> useful/interesting links to be put up on social networking sites, >> forwarding to friends or store for future referencing. >> Moiz. >> >> -- >> Moiz Tundawala >> 5th Year, B.A./B.Sc. LLB Hons., >> West Bengal National University of Juridical Sciences, >> NUJS Bhavan, 12 LB, Sector III, Salt Lake City, >> Kolkata, 700 098 >> >> Ph: +919874396052 >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] >> with >> the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] >> with >> the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:12:40 +0530 > From: "Pranav Lal" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AI] software upgrades; pl clarify > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi, > > The licensing fee is lower than the actual cost of the software. Jaws and > other products have software maintenance agreements where you pay an amount > for the next 2 versions. A lot of updates are free. Chargeable updates are > usually once in 2 years but that varies from program to program. > > It s not a matter of keeping on paying for a set of upgrades. You need to > take into account the manufacturers policies in that regard and do what you > can to minimize the cost. With adaptive technology, I have yet to encounter > an upgrade that did not benefit me in some way. > > Also, look at other screen readers like system access that have a > subscription model where you pay something like $30 per month and get all > the benefits of the program. > Pranav > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:23:14 +0530 > From: allaka umamahesh <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia Digest, Vol 42, Issue 3 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Respected Sir > > > On 10/2/09, [email protected] > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Send AccessIndia mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of AccessIndia digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Comparison between Portable Versions of Jaws and NVDA. >> (Amar Jain) >> 2. An interesting development in the field of GPS navigation >> (Vetrivel Adhimoolam) >> 3. Re: Replying to sender (Renuka Warrier) >> 4. article 7 : CONJUNCTIVITIS (sarthak edu) >> 5. Re: Google Chrome with JAWS 8? (Ravi Paul) >> 6. Re: webvisum with firefox! (Ravi Paul) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 01:42:07 +0530 >> From: "Amar Jain" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [AI] Comparison between Portable Versions of Jaws and >> NVDA. >> To: <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <002701ca42d3$79cd22a0$618df...@annu3c1f952a78> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Respected Sir, >> >> According to my knowledge the contents of autorun file should be like >> this: >> >> [autorun] >> shellexecute=nvda.exe >> >> >> Provided that your NVDA's files/folder are in root directory. >> If they are in a folder like "nvda", then add nvda\nvda.exe >> I hope you got the concept. >> And yes, the autorun.inf file which you saved after typing or copying >> these >> contents, should be in the root directory of the pen drive. Such as : >> E:\autorun.inf >> Please do not add the drive letter since it differs. >> It works in most cases however, please let me know weather it works with >> you >> or not. >> Please also paste your contents of your autorun file including where did >> you >> place NVDA folder. Since I am not operating it right now. >> Regards >> Amar Jain. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dr. Ibrahim Ali" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 2:15 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Comparison between Portable Versions of Jaws and NVDA. >> >> >> Of course, I will be thankful if information is provided regarding Auto >> run >> NVDA in pen drive. It seems that the programmers of NVDA want to train >> blinds for using mouse with the help of sounds, provided in NVDA to guide >> about the location of pointer. >> >> Vetri! first I extracted NVDA in a pen drive and then I put all the >> extracted files in data CD, with autorun.inf file. >> >> Regards to all, >> Dr. Ibrahim Ali >> Ph.D. >> Asst. Prof. Music >> & Online Teacher of Indian Classical Music, >> Web site: >> http://amirkhanikhayal.googlepages.com >> and >> http://ali.suchi.googlepages.com >> Address: 20 D.N. Marg, >> Ujjain [M.P.] 456006 >> Tel: 91-0734-2551949 >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Amar Jain" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:29 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Comparison between Portable Versions of Jaws and NVDA. >> >> >>> Same thing i.e., starting NVDA automatically from pen drive can be >>> achieved via creating a file "autorun.inf" and placing it into the main >>> folder. >>> That's what I had heard from Ruchir few months back. He also told me the >>> contents of the file, but I don't remember anything except that it had >>> something to do with shell or something... >>> If anyone is in need, i can search or probably ask ruchir. But I guess he >>> is busy with his cat preparations. >>> >>> I found NVDA very good. The only feature in NVDA which is most wanted >>> according to me is how we use jaws curser in jaws. >>> If that is done, then I guess NVDA will be the best in future. Because >>> that will solve many problems. >>> This is something called vurtual screen or something like that. >>> Regards >>> Amar Jain. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 11:11 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Comparison between Portable Versions of Jaws and NVDA. >>> >>> >>> I see. Do we need to burn the cd as an image? Say for example as one >>> burns >>> >>> a windows cd. Or do we simply extract those files to the cd and burn it >>> like a regular cd? >>> >>> Vetri. >>> >>> -original message- >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Comparison between Portable Versions of Jaws and NVDA. >>> From: "Dr. Ibrahim Ali" <[email protected]> >>> Date: 09/30/2009 11:33 AM >>> >>> You are correct. More over, if you burn an auto run CD of portable NVDA, >>> it >>> starts to work after simply inserting the CD. While running through pen >>> drive, you have to go to its EXE file without speech support. >>> >>> Regards to all, >>> Dr. Ibrahim Ali >>> Ph.D. >>> Asst. Prof. Music >>> & Online Teacher of Indian Classical Music, >>> Web site: >>> http://amirkhanikhayal.googlepages.com >>> and >>> http://ali.suchi.googlepages.com >>> Address: 20 D.N. Marg, >>> Ujjain [M.P.] 456006 >>> Tel: 91-0734-2551949 >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Amiyo Biswas" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:23 PM >>> Subject: [AI] Comparison between Portable Versions of Jaws and NVDA. >>> >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> Can someone discuss the differences of Jaws and NVDA portable versions? >>>> I >>>> understand, portable jaws actually requires some kind of installation. >>>> But >>>> we can just plug in the pen drive and run NVDA. Please discuss. >>>> >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Amiyo Biswas. >>>> Cell: 91-9433464329 >>>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please visit the list home page at >>>> >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >> >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] >> with >> the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:37:14 -0400 >> From: "Vetrivel Adhimoolam" <[email protected]> >> Subject: [AI] An interesting development in the field of GPS >> navigation >> To: <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <6ebd15ebf12a4a78a2951066be009...@mydesktop> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Please click the link below to read more. >> >> Vetri. >> >> http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEM2HGF280G_index_2.html >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:50:37 +0530 >> From: "Renuka Warrier" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [AI] Replying to sender >> To: <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <005301ca42fe$f2cc6b90$0400a...@amd> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=response >> >> No sir, >> >> It works even if the >> address has not been saved to our contacts. >> >> And, it works with JAWS8 too. >> >> Renuka----- Original Message ----- >> From: "surya prakash sharma" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:25 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Replying to sender >> >> >>> Hi, >>> but this works in a situation when you have already saved the person's >>> email ID in your address book. alternatively one can do the following: >>> 1. select the message without opening it. >>> 2. press application key and press enter on properties. >>> 3. vertualise the window by pressing INSERT + CTRL + W. >>> 4. READ THE TEXT WITH ARROW KEYS AND COPY THE SENDER'S ADDRESS AND PRESS >>> ESCAPE KEY TWICE. >>> 5. now press ctrl + N and paste the address in the 'to' field. >>> I am using these steps in Outlook express. >>> >>> sps.----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Amiyo Biswas" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:27 AM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Replying to sender >>> >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> There is a jaws key combination, insert+shift+r, for directly replying >>>> to >>>> >>>> sender. I am using it on Jaws 10. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Amiyo Biswas. >>>> Cell: 91-9433464329 >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "harish" <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:51 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Replying to sender >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> That's right. a typpo. >>>>> Harish >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "surya prakash sharma" <[email protected]> >>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:43 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Replying to sender >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> perhaps it is not alt + f1. it is alt +1 instead. >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Kotian, H P" <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 4:05 PM >>>>>> Subject: [AI] Replying to sender >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello all >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One of the reason I was not in favour of book request on this list is >>>>>>> because of multitude of mails asking for one more copy to them. It is >>>>>>> rather unfortunate and regrettable when members who have been in this >>>>>>> list for a very long time are also resorting to it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are a couple of ways of doing it, the most easiest way is to go >>>>>>> to the from field, select all and copy to clipboard. Jaws users can >>>>>>> go >>>>>>> >>>>>>> quickly to the from field is by alt f1. >>>>>>> Ctrl+a for select all and ctrl+c for copy to clipboard. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I sincerely hope there shall be no cluttering of such mails on the >>>>>>> list for a long time to come now. >>>>>>> Harish Kotian >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>> Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential >>>>>>> and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom >>>>>>> they are addressed. 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Blepharoconjunctivitis is the dual combination of conjunctivitis >> with blepharitis (inflammation of the eyelids). >> 2. Keratoconjunctivitis is the combination of conjunctivitis and >> keratitis (corneal inflammation). >> 3. Episcleritis is an inflammatory condition that produces a similar >> appearance to conjunctivitis, but without discharge or tearing. >> The viral and bacterial forms of conjunctivitis are contagious and >> were first discovered by Scottish doctors. >> Symptoms: >> Eyes with conjunctivitis; >> Redness (hyperaemia), irritation (chemosis) and watering (epiphora) of >> the eyes are symptoms common to all forms of conjunctivitis. >> Acute allergic conjunctivitis is typically itchy, sometimes >> distressingly so, and often involves some lid swelling. Chronic >> allergy often causes just itch or irritation. >> Viral conjunctivitis is often associated with an infection of the >> upper respiratory tract, a common cold, and/or a sore throat. Its >> symptoms include watery discharge and variable. The infection usually >> begins with one eye, but may spread easily to the other. >> Bacterial conjunctivitis due to the common pyogenic (pus-producing) >> bacteria causes marked grittiness/irritation and a stringy, opaque, >> grey or yellowish mucopurulent discharge (gowl, goop, "gunk", "eye >> crust", or other regional names, officially known as 'gound') that may >> cause the lids to stick together (matting), especially after sleeping. >> Another symptom that could be caused by bacterial conjunctivitis is >> severe crusting of the infected eye and the surrounding skin. However >> discharge is not essential to the diagnosis, contrary to popular >> belief. Bacteria such as Chlamydia trachomatis or Moraxella can cause >> a non-exudative but persistent conjunctivitis without much redness. >> The gritty and/or scratchy feeling is sometimes localized enough for >> patients to insist they must have a foreign body in the eye. The more >> acute pyogenic infections can be painful. Like viral conjunctivitis, >> it usually affects only one eye but may spread easily to the other >> eye. However, it is dormant in the eye for three days before the >> patient shows signs of symptoms. >> Irritant or toxic conjunctivitis is irritable or painful when the >> infected eye is pointed far down or far up. Discharge and itch are >> usually absent. This is the only group in which severe pain may occur. >> Inclusion conjunctivitis of the newborn (ICN) is a conjunctivitis that >> may be caused by the bacteria Chlamydia trachomatis, and may lead to >> acute, purulent conjunctivitis.However, it is usually self-healing. >> >> Signs: >> An eye, red due to acute conjunctivitis. >> >> An eye with bacterial conjunctivitis. >> Conjunctivitis is identified by irritation and redness of the >> conjunctiva. Except in obvious pyogenic or toxic/chemical >> conjunctivitis, a slit lamp (biomicroscope) is needed to have any >> confidence in the diagnosis. Examination of the tarsal conjunctiva is >> usually more diagnostic than the bulbar conjunctiva. >> Allergic conjunctivitis shows pale watery swelling or edema of the >> conjunctiva and sometimes the whole eyelid, often with a ropy, >> non-purulent mucoid discharge. There is variable redness. >> Viral conjunctivitis, commonly known as "pink eye", shows a fine >> diffuse pinkness of the conjunctiva which is easily mistaken for the >> 'ciliary injection' of iritis, but there are usually corroborative >> signs on bio microscopy, particularly numerous lymphoid follicles on >> the tarsal conjunctiva, and sometimes a punctate keratitis. >> Pyogenic bacterial conjunctivitis shows an opaque purulent discharge, >> a very red eye, and on bio microscopy there are numerous white cells >> and desquamated epithelial cells seen in the tear duct along the lid >> margin. The tarsal conjunctiva is a velvety red and not particularly >> follicular. Non-pyogenic infections can show just mild infection and >> be difficult to diagnose. Scarring of the tarsal conjunctiva is >> occasionally seen in chronic infections, especially in trachoma. >> Irritant or toxic conjunctivitis show primarily marked redness. If due >> to splash injury, it is often present only in the lower conjunctival >> sac. With some chemicals?above all with caustic alkalis such as sodium >> hydroxide?there may be necrosis of the conjunctiva with a deceptively >> white eye due to vascular closure, followed by sloughing of the dead >> epithelium. This is likely to be associated with slit-lamp evidence of >> anterior uveitis. >> Causes: >> Conjunctivitis is most commonly caused by viral infection, often >> Adenovirus. Bacterial infections also occur, and both bacterial and >> viral infections are contagious. Viral conjunctivitis does not usually >> require treatment (the rare exception being herpes conjunctivitis, >> which requires acyclovir), and prevention of spread is important. >> Bacterial conjunctivitis can be treated with topical antibiotics. >> Conjunctivitis can also be caused by allergic reactions, eye >> irritants, and dry eyes. >> Differential diagnosis: >> Conjunctivitis symptoms and signs are relatively non-specific. Even >> after bio microscopy, laboratory tests are often necessary if proof of >> etiology is needed. >> A purulent discharge (a whitish-yellow, yellow or yellow-brown >> substance more commonly known as pus) strongly suggests bacterial >> cause, unless there is known exposure to toxins. Pink eye can also be >> caused by bacteria from feces, pet hair, or by smoke or other fumes. >> Infection with Neisseria gonorrhoeae should be suspected if the >> discharge is particularly thick and copious. >> Itching (rubbing eyes) is the hallmark symptom of allergic >> conjunctivitis. Other symptoms include past history of eczema, or >> asthma. >> A diffuse, less "injected" conjunctivitis (looking pink rather than >> red) suggests a viral cause, especially if numerous follicles are >> present on the lower tarsal conjunctiva on bio microscopy. >> Scarring of the tarsal conjunctiva suggests trachoma, especially if >> seen in endemic areas, if the scarring is linear (von Arlt's line), or >> if there is also corneal vascularisation. >> Clinical tests for lagophthalmos, dry eye (Schirmer test) and unstable >> tear film may help distinguish the various types of pink eye. >> Other symptoms including pain, blurring of vision and photophobia >> should not be prominent in conjunctivitis. Fluctuating blurring is >> common, due to tearing and mucoid discharge. Mild photophobia is >> common. However, if any of these symptoms are prominent, it is >> important to exclude other diseases such as glaucoma, uveitis, >> keratitis and even meningitis or caroticocavernous fistula. >> Many people who have conjunctivitis have trouble opening their eyes in >> the morning because of the dried mucus on their eyelids. There is >> often excess mucus over the eye after sleeping for an extended period. >> Investigations: >> These are done infrequently because most cases of conjunctivitis are >> treated empirically and (eventually) successfully, but often only >> after running the gamut of the common possibilities. >> Swabs for bacterial culture are necessary if the history and signs >> suggest bacterial conjunctivitis, but there is no response to topical >> antibiotics. Research studies indicate that many bacteria implicated >> in low-grade conjunctivitis are not detected by the usual culture >> methods of medical microbiology labs, so negative results are common. >> Viral culture may be appropriate in epidemic case clusters. >> Conjunctival scrapes for cytology can be useful in detecting >> chlamydial and fungal infections, allergy and dysplasia, but are >> rarely done because of the cost and the general lack of laboratory >> staff experienced in handling ocular specimens. Conjunctival >> incisional biopsy is occasionally done when granulomatous diseases >> (e.g., sarcoidosis) or dysplasia are suspected. >> Treatment and management: >> Conjunctivitis sometimes requires medical attention. The appropriate >> treatment depends on the cause of the problem. >> Allergic; >> For the allergic type, cool water poured over the face with the head >> inclined downward constricts capillaries, and artificial tears >> sometimes relieve discomfort in mild cases. In more severe cases, >> non-steroidal anti-inflammatory medications and antihistamines may be >> prescribed. Some patients with persistent allergic conjunctivitis may >> also require topical steroid drops. >> Bacterial; >> Bacterial conjunctivitis often eventually resolves without treatment. >> Treatment with antibiotic eye drops or ointments (such as >> chloramphenicol or fusidic acid) does however speed recovery. >> Gentamicin and Vigamox, (moxifloxacin) are commonly used in the >> U.S.[4] Evidence suggests there is a modest reduction in duration from >> an average of 4.625 days (untreated controls) to 3.3 days for those >> given immediate antibiotics. Deferring antibiotics yields almost the >> same duration as those immediately starting treatment with 3.9 days >> duration, but with half the two-week clinic reattendance rate.[5] >> Viral; >> Although there is no specific treatment for viral conjunctivitis, >> symptomatic relief may be achieved with warm compresses[6] and >> artificial tears. For the worst cases, topical corticosteroid drops >> may be prescribed to reduce the discomfort from inflammation. However >> prolonged usage of corticosteroid drops increases the risk of side >> effects. Antibiotic drops may also be used for treatment of >> complementary infections. Patients are often advised to avoid touching >> their eyes or sharing towels and washcloths. Viral conjunctivitis >> usually resolves within 3 weeks. However, in worse cases it may take >> over a month. In past times breast milk was often used to relieve the >> symptoms of conjunctivitis.[citation needed] >> Chemical; >> Conjunctivitis due to burns, toxic and chemical require careful >> wash-out with saline, especially beneath the lids, and may require >> topical steroids. The more acute chemical injuries are medical >> emergencies, particularly alkali burns, which can lead to severe >> scarring, and intraocular damage. Fortunately, such injuries are >> uncommon. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 12:42:49 +0530 >> From: Ravi Paul <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [AI] Google Chrome with JAWS 8? >> To: [email protected], [email protected] >> Message-ID: >> <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> Just asking: did you try to do a clean uninstall of Firefox (i.e. >> completely removing all the traces of it in program files, documents >> and settings) and re-installing it? Google chrome is not accessible at >> the moment, although they claim to be working on that aspect. >> Which keystroke did you press? alt+d? CTRL+l? what message did you get? >> Regards, Ravi Paul >> >> On 10/1/09, Mukesh Sharma <[email protected]> wrote: >>> No, Chrome Browser, and there is no information about it's accessibility! >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Subramani L >>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 3:51 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Google Chrome with JAWS 8? >>> >>> Are you all talking of Crome OS by any cchance? >>> >>> Subramani >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of phani >>> srikanth >>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 3:26 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Google Chrome with JAWS 8? >>> >>> no, crome is not at all accessible when i tried it the previous time. >>> >>> On 10/1/09, moiz tundawala <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hi >>>> Is Google Chrome accessible with JAWS 8? The last time I checked it >>>> wasn't. I am facing real issues with internet explorer and firefox >>>> which may perhaps not get resolved unless I format the computer. Among >>>> other things, I am not being able to navigate to the address bar or >>>> have the webpage address copied and read aloud. What about safari? >>>> Moiz. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Moiz Tundawala >>>> 5th Year, B.A./B.Sc. LLB Hons., >>>> West Bengal National University of Juridical Sciences, NUJS Bhavan, 12 >>>> LB, Sector III, Salt Lake City, Kolkata, 700 098 >>>> >>>> Ph: +919874396052 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> [email protected] with >>>> the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please >>>> visit the list home page at >>>> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i >>> n >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please >>> visit the list home page at >>> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i >>> n >>> >>> Email secured by TPML Raksha Checkpoint >>> >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] >>> with >>> the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please >>> visit the list home page at >>> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] >>> with >>> the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please >>> visit the list home page at >>> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 12:55:10 +0530 >> From: Ravi Paul <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [AI] webvisum with firefox! >> To: [email protected] >> Message-ID: >> <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> Hi, you should know what you want to do with Webvisum. It has multiple >> functionality. In other words, you should know what you downloaded >> Webvisum for. Otherwise, it becomes difficult to understand how to >> help. >> Have you registered to their website? if yes, use your username and >> password to login to webvisum, look at the help by pressing ctrl+1 and >> see if you can find out something... >> Regards, Ravi Paul >> >> On 10/1/09, Saravanan Ramadoss <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> hello friends, >>> How to use webvisum with firefox effectively? >>> Today, I visited the webvisum site & got the confirmation after made >>> a >>> formal request in the invitation link. >>> But I don't kknow what to do next. 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