Well, mukesh, in my opinion, answers to your questions1 and 1.1 are in the affirmative. Question of non-reading disabled does not arise, as the only motive in that case is earning money by selling such a free e copy. Now, earning money in that way is pretty difficult, as people do not want to read a book on computer monitor, and taking printouts and selling would hardly make financial sense. However, if there is any such motive of earning money, it totally prohibited, and in fact, only for that such huge copy right laws exist. Otherwise, scanning for personal use is fully warranted, and in fact, it is taking extra efforts to avail what is available to a sighted person easily after purchasing a book. to clarify, even after purchasing, we get a hard copy which we have to scan,. It is precisely to save such duplication of scanning efforts and promote ease of reading that e books are distributed to disabled by other disabled or even non-disabled. In this there is loss to publishers but it is minimal. It is minimal because they don't see business sense in making material accessible. Moreover, if you require every disabled reader of e books to pay up, only a fraction of those can actually pay and would read the book in any case. So, this is also promoting reading of books and their reach. At least the ideas contained them would reach the larger audience. Publishing is not like selling air conditioners motivated solely profit. It is a noble enterprise further the journey of ideas and thoughts. In that journey we the disabled are helping the authors and publishers. If the authors and publishers are solely greedy for profits, as it seems they are, then they should see the sense in making material accessible, or else, I at least, am ready and willing to openly distribute and scan the books to any body who is interested in them.
If it is revolt, let be revolutionaries Regards Rajesh Asudani Assistant General Manager (PPS), Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 Doth God exact day-labour, light denied?" John Milton -----Original Message----- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mukesh Sharma Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 1:36 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] New Book: Shadows Across the Playing Field Are we revolting? If the author do not provide book in accessible format, do we have the full right to scan and upload them? Every time we need something, we look for alternative (Jugar) or free solution! Why not to start a discussion and lets try forming an opinion (this would certainly help every one the next time contacting an author / publisher to provide book in accessible format. My Few questions for the starter. 1. Do you think, we (Reading Disabled only) have the right to scan / record / convert book in accessible format for our personal use? 1.1. If Yes, can we give it to some one (reading Disabled) for their personal use? 1.1.1. If no, Why every time one has to invest a lot of labor and time to convert same book just to be sure of not infringing Copyright? 1.1.2. If yes, who will ensure that the book is not passed to non reading disabled? 1.2 If No, then whose responsibility is to provide us (reading disabled) book in accessible format? They are just my confusion hence seeking opinion and not trying to indulge in ... Looking forward to hear from eminent leaders of the group specially bookshare, DAISY, Law, Disability and Book bole representatives. Thanks Mukesh -----Original Message----- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 1:02 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] New Book: Shadows Across the Playing Field Dear Dr. Nisha and others, Well, I think comparison to Maoists and naxalists is misplaced, to say the least. Taking life is altogether another thing. Mind you, Even nelson Mandela had the plans to blow off property before being confined indefinitely, but he was against taking life needlessly. I am of the opinion that life may be forfeited only to prevent future wanton acts of destruction, and to avenge past horrific acts of destruction. Anyway, coming to the point, right to read, as being exercised by blind community is light years away from wanton killings and even vandalism. I think a book is not primarily written for earning a livelihood, not at least in the present era. Yes, it may be written for earning, but we are ready to pay if they provide it accessible format. If they don't see a business sense in making the book accessible, then ideally speaking, they should not also be harmed by our petty acts of distributing accessible books. Or else, if they are harmed, then it is a good way of making them aware that it makes business sense to provide accessible books. E book industry, as a whole is, like music industry a decade ago, waking up to possibility of piracy and consequently finding legal means of distributing e books. That should benefit us, I suppose. Regards Rajesh Asudani Assistant General Manager (PPS), Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 Doth God exact day-labour, light denied?" John Milton -----Original Message----- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Dr. nisha singh Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:48 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] New Book: Shadows Across the Playing Field dear Akhilesh, do you think that what maoist and naxalites are doing is good? i know and have seen the plight of the people crushed like anything for centuries but this do not give anybody licence to kill. there are genuine ways always available, by circulating books this way you are hampering the earnings of any writer who would have written his/her book burning thousands of hours and would have done research on whole lot of topics. in a society where blind persons want equality and better treatment, do not do such things to make yourselves a a potential threat to otheres. the act is of persons of weak characters. demand for the e books, and if you have the bucks purchase it. we live in a civil society. akhilesh and prashant do write some book in your future, do all the labour and give it to pirates. sounds good?? stand against piracy. nisha On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:53 PM, akhilesh <akhil.akhi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks allot sir!!! > The book is very nice but the comment that you've written on publisher > and writer is extremely good!!! > This is not the piracy, and we have the right to read. > This is the time when we must force our government to amend the > copyright act 1957!!! > Anyway, bookbole is a website designed for print disable people, and > if somebody is helping a large community to read something from which > they have denied for centuries, there is nothing wrong in it. > Sir you have got the award from president of the country for helping > one of the deprived community, and as far as I think, this is the > continuation of that same help. > Again I'd like to emphasise that book bole is a site solely made for > these sorts of purposes. > Thanks > Akhilesh. > > > > On 10/8/09, nisha singh <nishaforpeo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear prashant, > > > > scanning the book and distributing it freely is totally against the law. > if > > you would had twittered doctor shashi tharoor, he would have given > > all his award winning books and his hundreds of articles also > > published in > the > > national and international newspapers and magazines. but now you are > > out > of > > his good book. getting an award from president of the country gives > > some responsibility on your shouder. without informing him how could > > you do > this. > > i dont think you ever asked roli publishers or Mr. Tharoor for soft > > copy > who > > are the publisher or copy right holder of this book. you should have > > demanded the ebook or purchased it. you have right to read but not > > of piracy. i believe you understand what i am saying to you. i can > > not force you but can request you and others to not to distribute it this way. > Tharoor > > is one of the easily accessible minister in delhi. try and find one > > such agency who would distribute the soft copy only to the blind community. > > > > nisha > > > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Prashant Verma > > <pr_ve...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> Dear all, > >> This latest book is available on www.bookbole.com. > >> You will recall that it has been written by Shashi Tharur and > >> Shaharyar Khan and was published recently. It discusses Indo-Pak > >> cricketing relations. > >> You can search for this book by title or else look for "Shadows > >> Across > the > >> Playing Field" in the recently uploaded books. > >> Sorry authors and Mr. publisher you see we have a right to read > >> all published material at the same time at no extra cost and in a > >> format accessible to us. > >> > >> I purchased this book online but alas! only hard copies were available. > >> > >> Prashant > >> > >> > >> To unsubscribe send a message to > >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith the subject unsubscribe. > >> > >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other > >> changes, please visit the list home page at > >> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org > .in > >> > > > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to > > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith > > the subject unsubscribe. > > > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other > > changes, > please > > visit the list home page at > > > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org > .in > > > > > -- > === > Visit my blog at: > freestuff4indians.blogspot.com > Skype ID: > akhil.akhil29 > === > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org > .in > To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. 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