And... about that stuff on deforming a reputed bank... If they deform
someone's right to services, they are no noble institution in my
opinion. We should never be unduly biased for or against any
institution. We are talking purely about their deficient service and
their callousness and inhumane treatment of a group of people who
deserve the best of services that an institution can lend. If they
cannot provide their best service to someone who deserves the most, then
is there a guarantee that they would provide it for anyone else? 

Subramani 



-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani L
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:33 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking

Why should I argue for my ATM card? Is the bank keeping superior
debating skills as a necessary qualification for issuing essential
things like ATM to a customer?

Subramani  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 4:51 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking

Hello,

Noone has to deform such a pioneer corporate like PNB. RBI framed rules
and 
circulars, but being a Branch Manager, it seems impractical to issue ATM

card to the blind customers. Let me argue the matter with the blind
customer 
who is in need of ATM card and cheque book. Why does he need ATM card
and 
cheque book and how shall I issue? Let him convince me.

Thanks.
Kamal Verma
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mahesh Panicker" <maheshspanic...@gmail.com>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking


> dear Mr. Verma. .
> surprised to know someone has something nice to say about PNB. I
> haven't find many other organizations as obnoxious as PNB is. I had a
> real struggle to get my ATM card from PNB. in fact, I'd contacted the
> higher authorities as well. but at the end of the day, I had to
> complaint to the RBI, and also to the NHRC and the government of India
> ministry of finance to get my card. after all that, I got my card
> after a good 7 months. recently too, I had a terrible time with the
> PNB, when I applied for a check book. as I already mentioned, this
> happened after I submitted the RBI circular on the rights of the
> disabled on banking facility.
> and then we all have the story of a visually challenged being asked to
> provide a NOC from the parents to avail an ATM card. have you heard of
> anything more obnoxious?
> banks in general, and PNB in particular have a horrible record when it
> comes to acknowledging the rightful claims of the disabled. so we have
> to take the struggle against such horrible institutional nonsense to
> all possible levels including the media.
>
> On 5/24/10, Kamal Verma <kamalve...@pnb.co.in> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I am surprised to note various complaints against PNB in this list. I
am
>> availing all the banking facilities, such as cheque book, debit card,

>> credit
>> card, internet banking, etc. PNB does not ignore the blind community,

>> hence
>> if any problem occurs, it may be communicated to the higher
authorities 
>> of
>> PNB with the name and designation of the concerned officer.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Kamal Verma
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mahesh Panicker"
>> <maheshspanic...@gmail.com>
>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 8:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
>>
>>
>>
>> > banking is one area where there is a lot of discrimination against
the
>> > visually challenged. opening an account itself isn't any easier,
but
>> > ones you open an account, getting the common banking facilities
like
>> > ATM cards and check book is an absolute nightmare.I've an account
with
>> > the Punjab National Bank, and I had my struggle of my life to get
my
>> > ATM card issued. it took me a good 7 month for the same to be done.
>> > the struggle for the check book was also on similar lines, and
>> > although I've got the checkbook, it has come with a lot of
conditions.
>> > most people on access india can tell you similar stories. I believe
>> > some of our own members have taken a lot of initiative in this
regard,
>> > and the 2008 RBI order is an achievement because of such
initiatives.
>> >
>> > On 5/23/10, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA <bsvermad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > blind persons should organize and conduct an agitation before the
>> banking
>> > > division and finance ministry. this is the only solution.
>> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "rahul cherian"
>> > > <rahul.cher...@inclusiveplanet.com>
>> > > To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> > > Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 12:47 PM
>> > > Subject: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > Folks,
>> > > >
>> > > > I have been asked to prepare a comprehensive note on the issues

>> > > > that
>> > > persons
>> > > > with visual impairment face with banking in India, especially
in >
>> leading
>> > > > banks such as ICICI, HDFC and SBI, along with possible
solutions. 
>> > > > This
>> > > note
>> > > > has been asked for by some senior people I know personally in
these 
>> > > >  >
>> banks.
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know at
>> the
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been
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>> > > >
>> > > > Best regards,
>> > > >
>> > > > Rahul Cherian
>> > > > Inclusive Planet
>> > > >
>> > > > On 23 May 2010 12:39, Srinivasu Chakravarthula
>> > > <sriniv...@srinivasu.org>wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hi Dinesh,
>> > > > > Can you provide us with little more details about your
problem 
>> > > > > with
>> > > > > Yahoo! Messenger so as to help you better?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Regards,
>> > > > > Srinivasu
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On 5/23/10, dinesh shukla <dineshshukla2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > >     dear friends I am not able to chatte with the help of
Yahoo
>> > > > > massenger.
>> > > > > > please help me to do  the same telling me the steps.
Dinesh
>> > > Shukla.
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