I think it was clearly mentioned in one of the mails that he is indeed a
major. The issue is not that. The issue is disability and that comes
quite clear from the way the issue ws explained to us.
Subramani
-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 11:45 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
The customer's account status has not been discussed. He may be minor
and
what are the operation conditions.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Subramani L" <lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
Why should he or she produce a document which no one is required to
produce? If any customer is not producing such a document and if I am
asked purely because I am disabled, is that not 'discrimination'? I am
at a loss for reasoning here. Plese help me.
Subramani
-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal
Verma
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:26 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
Dear Sir,
The customer is trying to satisfy his ego. Otherwise, he should have
produced NOC or any such endorsement from his parrents. The problems
might
have been solved. Details of this blind customer have not been
discussed in
the list. There are number of blind customers availing ATM, cheque
book
and
other facilities from PNB.
Regards.
Kamal Verma
----- Original Message -----
From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
Who is bloody branch manager to sit in judgment over rules
framed
by regulator?
If he/she has to question them, let him represent to central bank or
government, for the time, rules are there, he has to comply with
them.
If we give in to approach of petty functionaries thwarting rules,
there
will be no rule of law in this country.
Moreover, why does anybody require banking facilities? So, there is
no
rational behind this question.
And, about ATM, bank is not responsible anyway for misuse or loss.
Check book is another matter, and I have time and again pointed out
the
lacunae in the policy pertaining to it.
So, we can not hold bankers denying it to fault.
Regards
"Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to
create
Him."
--Arthur C. Clarke
(Rajesh Asudani)
Assistant General Manager,
Reserve Bank of India
Nagpur
09420397185
O: 0712 2806676
Res: 0712 2591349
-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal
Verma
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 4:51 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
Hello,
Noone has to deform such a pioneer corporate like PNB. RBI framed
rules
and
circulars, but being a Branch Manager, it seems impractical to issue
ATM
card to the blind customers. Let me argue the matter with the blind
customer
who is in need of ATM card and cheque book. Why does he need ATM card
and
cheque book and how shall I issue? Let him convince me.
Thanks.
Kamal Verma
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mahesh Panicker" <maheshspanic...@gmail.com>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
dear Mr. Verma. .
surprised to know someone has something nice to say about PNB. I
haven't find many other organizations as obnoxious as PNB is. I had
a
real struggle to get my ATM card from PNB. in fact, I'd contacted
the
higher authorities as well. but at the end of the day, I had to
complaint to the RBI, and also to the NHRC and the government of
India
ministry of finance to get my card. after all that, I got my card
after a good 7 months. recently too, I had a terrible time with the
PNB, when I applied for a check book. as I already mentioned, this
happened after I submitted the RBI circular on the rights of the
disabled on banking facility.
and then we all have the story of a visually challenged being asked
to
provide a NOC from the parents to avail an ATM card. have you heard
of
anything more obnoxious?
banks in general, and PNB in particular have a horrible record when
it
comes to acknowledging the rightful claims of the disabled. so we
have
to take the struggle against such horrible institutional nonsense to
all possible levels including the media.
On 5/24/10, Kamal Verma <kamalve...@pnb.co.in> wrote:
Hello all,
I am surprised to note various complaints against PNB in this list.
I am
availing all the banking facilities, such as cheque book, debit
card,
credit
card, internet banking, etc. PNB does not ignore the blind
community,
hence
if any problem occurs, it may be communicated to the higher
authorities
of
PNB with the name and designation of the concerned officer.
Thanks.
Kamal Verma
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mahesh Panicker"
<maheshspanic...@gmail.com>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
> banking is one area where there is a lot of discrimination
against
the
> visually challenged. opening an account itself isn't any easier,
but
> ones you open an account, getting the common banking facilities
like
> ATM cards and check book is an absolute nightmare.I've an account
with
> the Punjab National Bank, and I had my struggle of my life to get
my
> ATM card issued. it took me a good 7 month for the same to be
done.
> the struggle for the check book was also on similar lines, and
> although I've got the checkbook, it has come with a lot of
conditions.
> most people on access india can tell you similar stories. I
believe
> some of our own members have taken a lot of initiative in this
regard,
> and the 2008 RBI order is an achievement because of such
initiatives.
>
> On 5/23/10, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA <bsvermad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > blind persons should organize and conduct an agitation before
the
banking
> > division and finance ministry. this is the only solution.
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "rahul cherian"
> > <rahul.cher...@inclusiveplanet.com>
> > To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 12:47 PM
> > Subject: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
> >
> >
> >
> > > Folks,
> > >
> > > I have been asked to prepare a comprehensive note on the
issues
> > > that
> > persons
> > > with visual impairment face with banking in India, especially
in >
leading
> > > banks such as ICICI, HDFC and SBI, along with possible
solutions.
> > > This
> > note
> > > has been asked for by some senior people I know personally in
> > > these
> > > >
banks.
> > > If anyone would like to help me prepare this note do let me
know
> > > at
the
> > > earliest. If anyone has the details of any such note which
has
> > > been
> > prepared
> > > earlier do forward that to me.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Rahul Cherian
> > > Inclusive Planet
> > >
> > > On 23 May 2010 12:39, Srinivasu Chakravarthula
> > <sriniv...@srinivasu.org>wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Dinesh,
> > > > Can you provide us with little more details about your
problem
> > > > with
> > > > Yahoo! Messenger so as to help you better?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Srinivasu
> > > >
> > > > On 5/23/10, dinesh shukla <dineshshukla2...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > > > > dear friends I am not able to chatte with the help of
> > > > > Yahoo
> > > > massenger.
> > > > > please help me to do the same telling me the steps.
> > > > > Dinesh
> > Shukla.
> > > > >
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