dear friends,
sorry for the late reply. Dear Subramani, first of all, I request you to modify the first line of your message properly as your messages from 11:50 am to 1:30 PM today were containing the subject lines in the message body and making the reading difficult for the VI. coming to your comments, there may be various reasons for no response. first of all, there were some problems in your mail itself. your subject line was not clear and up to the real problem. you wrote it as recruitment rules which does not carry any message itself that a person is seriously affected by a current burning problem. that's why the moderator is repeatedly telling about the subject line. many people do not open the mails subjects of which do not interests them. that has already been rectified. the information given is not clear. whether disqualification is due to diabetes or blindness? you said you found out some thing about rules. did you find all the applicable laws which govern the recruitment of that job? if not, you have to get it through RTI or any other means as suggested by another member. you said the age of person 40 years. does this has anything to do with the disqualification? or you put it just to emphasis his problem of not getting the job at the late age? you have to clarify these things before seeking legal opinion. other than the above, members may not knowing the answer even though they want to help you. at that time, they keep quite. many a times, people will not be having enough time to reply to the messages as they may be busy in their own engagements. I check the mails only once or twice and reply only if have enough time. recall the moderator's comment that everyone need not reply to every message.

so, please take back your harsh remarks on the list and its members. they are very offensive. responding to a message has nothing to do with knowledge and competence and you are not a competent person to judge them. I have seen no off topic message flooding the replies since my entry. the moderator is nipping them in the bud. you said the case affects every person. but other than off topic issues, all the matters are related to blind and any one among them including yours can be argued to be affecting every other blind. this case may not also affect some of the blind persons. present case is serious and I do not deny that. but before making negative comments on the matters, you have to see all these aspects. regarding useless discussions, you are not the judge for that. it may be useless for you but useful for those who discuss them. for example, I also feel some times members discussing so much about mobiles, android and others and feel useless. I do not have a talking mobile and that's why I feel so. but I simply ignore those messages. but the same may be of use to those having mobiles. so, this list is not a talking shop, insensitive, useless, futile and unworthy as you said and your message is not a scientific test of it.

Umesha

----- Original Message ----- From: "P. Subramani" <subramani6...@gmail.com> To: "Kakarla Nageswaraiah" <nageswara1...@gmail.com>; <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Sunday, 26 February, 2012 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Dear Kakarla, Thanks for your excellent suggestions/comments. I am simultaneously followingup in the channels suggested, surely, i may not have the right to criticize the listers, but for this specific matter. I too have undergone the non-responses from listers on many of my posts for which I didn't react respecting the members' rights and all such posts were individual requirements. But this present case is affecting the masses. If not for such specific cases, I do not outburst. Surely you will appreciate the gravity of the matter especially the employment seekers point of view. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kakarla Nageswaraiah
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


 Hello,
 Many a time, we don't get replies to our mails.  In such cases, try to
 forward or change the subject line to attract the attention of the
 listers.  Do not loose your ppatience; do not burst out with so many
 negative comments.  It doesn't matter whether we, the listers deserve
 such comments or not; you may think you have a right to write
 criticising the  listers for their insensitivity to the problem you
 posted.  But why don't you make use of the RTI Act to get a copy of
 their recruitment rules?  Or why don't you seek justice by bringing
 the matter to the notice of the CCPD?  Why don't you consult advocacy
 cells set up by AICB, etc.?  I too did not get response to my requests
 a number of times but I never complained.


 On 2/25/12, P. Subramani <subramani6...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Although I agree with your contention of > listers' choice to respond or not, If it was limited to me or a few fine. > But this particular matter concerns the entire blind community especially
 > the employment seekers and  and none seem to bother. So I am forced to
> question the knowledge-level and competency of the listers. This matter is > more of a general concern rather than an individual concern. Its terrible > that a matter of this stature is treated or othervise differently. I am
 > absolutely  right in my observations/remarks. P. Subramani
 >   ----- Original Message -----
 >   From: Bharat
 >   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 >   Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:28 PM
 >   Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
 >
 >
 >   While I completely agree with the need for people to respond to your
 >   thoughts, which indeed are important. however, you must realise that,
 >   responding or, not to any particular mails, is people's own decision.
 >   & I don't really think, you should this kind of things across to the
 >   list.
 >
 >   On 2/25/12, P. Subramani <subramani6...@gmail.com> wrote:
 >   > [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
 >   > ----- Original Message -----
 >   > From: P. Subramani
 >   > To: Kotian, H P ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 >   > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:06 PM
 >   > Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
 >   >
 >   >
> > Hello! I am apalled to see no response to this mail enquiry from any
 > group
> > member on this extraordinary issue which concerns each and every blind > > person. This clearly shows the incompetence of all the members of this > > group on this very sensitive issue. You people are just rangling with > > passionate and going at each other in many useless/futile discussions on > > things like books and mobiles. Its disgracing on your (members') part to > > simply ignore this kind of matters. When off-topic matters are posted by > > chance, each and everyone flood the mailbox with futile reactions. I
 > just
> > wonder whether this group is just a talking shop for some non-sensical > > matters? Despite having so-called knowledgeables in this group, this
 > issue
> > hasn't even received any reaction/suggestion. I conclude by saying
 > this
 >   > group like many other groups  is  exposing its insensitivity to the
 > issues
 >   > concerning the blind. Assuming this group was setup apart from
 > discussing
 >   > technology to the blind also all such matter/issues concerning the
 > blind.
> > This is one such test case where all you failed to come up necessary > > needful. This group remains useless/futile and unworthy. P. Subramani
 >   >   ----- Original Message -----
 >   >   From: Kotian, H P
 >   >   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 >   >   Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:34 PM
 >   >   Subject: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
 >   >
 >   >
 >   >   Hello
 >   >   Forwarding a mail, which did not get to the list.
 >   >   Harish Kotian
 >   >
 >   >
 >   >   Quoting:
 >   >
 >   >
 >   >   From: P. Subramani <mailto:subramani6...@gmail.com>
 >   >   To: accessindia <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
 >   >   Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 2:24 PM
 >   >   Subject: Recruitment rules!
 >   >
 >   >   A blin man has been disqualified due to diabetes while undergoing
 > medical
 >   > examinations in the recruitment process for group 'D posts in
 > Southwestern
> > Railways. I seek the guidance of knowledgeables in this regard. From > > whatever I foundout, there are no such rules of disqualification. The
 > person
> > is 40 years.Further needful actions/suggestions are invited from all.
 > This
 >   > is very urgent. P. Subramani d
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