Mr. VIVEK KAVYA,
Your comments on legal experts are beyond my understanding. Do you
remember the case of your friend? I was the one who responded you
first and asked you to contact me off list. I got the files relating
to the case but these files were badly scanned hence not readable. I
informed Mr. Mobin khan regarding this and I have also told him to
send me the files again. But no replies!!!!

Frankly speaking, we’re not allowed to give such assurance to anybody
at least on record. but I've also informed him that his case is very
fit and chances are that order may come in his favour. Should I
forward you that mail?

I don't know how many legal experts/law professionals are there on the
list, but for one thing I'm sure that we're here for you, we're here
to protect your rights, and we’re here to solve your legal issues.
Some Lawyers on the list are very senior and they may not find the
time to respond the each mail, but whenever they get time they surely
respond to mails.

Have you ever gone to the organizations that are getting the nice
money from the funding agencies in the name of free legal aid to the
disabled?  Have you ever asked any question to them regarding this?

Mr KAVYA, you should have thought at least casting such derogating
remarks on law professionals when you said that our legal experts in
this list think that answering on list does not give them any fees so
they keep silent on such issues!!!

Read the subject line of prateek’s mail. It reads something “attention
legal experts”!
Do you know? Respected Mr. Rajesh asadani, Vashishth sir, and I took
the active part in that particular discussion!!!!


Thanks and regards,
Akhilesh.

On 2/26/12, Amrit Pal Singh <amritpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> well said, sir.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "harish" <har...@accessindia.org.in>
> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 8:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> Let me make it very plainly, that every one here has come by his / her own
>>
>> will.
>>
>> At no point of time we had made any claims that AI is the ultimate answer
>> for all problems of the disabled.
>>
>> This is a place to share and exchange information that one has picked up
>> at any point of time. It is a store house of collective wisdom.
>>
>> You may or may not get answers to your problem. That is how it is. Yes,
>> putting appropriate subject line and articulating the problem clearly
>> certainly helps.
>>
>> All though I really don't intend to say this, however, looking at your
>> outburst, I am compelled to say that if this list fails to meet your
>> expectation levels, you need not continue with it.
>>
>> May we now put to rest this deviation?
>>
>> Harish Kotian
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "P. Subramani" <subramani6...@gmail.com>
>> To: "Umesha Economics" <umesha....@gmail.com>;
>> <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 5:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>>
>>
>>> Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!these are just vague excuses. By
>>> mistake, someone posts an off-topic matter, most if not all are up in
>>> arms against the poster. I don't agree with the notion that subjectline
>>> doesn't indicate  actual matter.  If off-topic mails can catch the
>>> attention of why not a mail routed   through the moderator? Subjectline
>>> is quitre as the matter pertains to recruitment and its rules thereon.
>>> Also my mail is very clear and his age was mentioned as more details
>>> would be of help. Forget all those who don't have any solutions in this
>>> regard, what about those know such matters? Coming to the citing of
>>> moderator's comments that all mails need not be replied to,  it depends
>>> on the gravity of the issue. Coming to discussion of useless maters, you
>>> need not remind me of the delet button as all computer users well-versed
>>> with that necessary button and hence I do use to ignore such mails. Its
>>> ridiculous to say I am not the person to judge which is the otherway of
>>> deflecting from the main issue.  I shall never take back my remarks and
>>> shall standby them. Moreover,  you have failed to read my mail completely
>>>
>>> and understand as well.
>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>  From: Umesha Economics
>>>  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 3:04 PM
>>>  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>>>
>>>
>>>  dear friends,
>>>  sorry for the late reply. Dear Subramani, first of all, I request you to
>>>  modify the first line of your message properly as your messages from
>>> 11:50
>>>  am to 1:30 PM today were containing the subject lines in the message
>>> body
>>>  and making the reading difficult for the VI. coming to your comments,
>>> there
>>>  may be various reasons for no response. first of all, there were some
>>>  problems in your mail itself. your subject line was not clear and up to
>>> the
>>>  real problem. you wrote it as recruitment rules which does not carry any
>>>  message itself that a person is seriously affected by a current burning
>>>  problem. that's why the moderator is repeatedly telling about the
>>> subject
>>>  line. many people do not open the mails subjects of which do not
>>> interests
>>>  them. that has already been rectified. the information given is not
>>> clear.
>>>  whether disqualification is due to diabetes or blindness? you said you
>>> found
>>>  out some thing about rules. did you find all the applicable laws which
>>>  govern the recruitment of that job? if not, you have to get it through
>>> RTI
>>>  or any other means as suggested by another member. you said the age of
>>>  person 40 years. does this has anything to do with the disqualification?
>>>
>>> or
>>>  you put it just to emphasis his problem of not getting the job at the
>>> late
>>>  age? you have to clarify these things before seeking legal opinion.
>>>  other than the above, members may not knowing the answer even though
>>> they
>>>  want to help you. at that time, they keep quite. many a times, people
>>> will
>>>  not be having enough time to reply to the messages as they may be busy
>>> in
>>>  their own engagements. I check the mails only once or twice and reply
>>> only
>>>  if have enough time. recall the moderator's comment that everyone need
>>> not
>>>  reply to every message.
>>>
>>>  so, please take back your harsh remarks on the list and its members.
>>> they
>>>  are very offensive. responding to a message has nothing to do with
>>> knowledge
>>>  and competence and you are not a competent person to judge them. I have
>>> seen
>>>  no off topic message flooding the replies since my entry. the moderator
>>> is
>>>  nipping them in the bud. you said the case affects every person. but
>>> other
>>>  than off topic issues, all the matters are related to blind and any one
>>>  among them including yours can be argued to be affecting every other
>>> blind.
>>>  this case may not also affect some of the blind persons. present case is
>>>  serious and I do not deny that. but before making negative comments on
>>> the
>>>  matters, you have to see all these aspects.
>>>  regarding useless discussions, you are not the judge for that. it may be
>>>  useless for you but useful for those who discuss them. for example, I
>>> also
>>>  feel some times members discussing so much about mobiles, android and
>>> others
>>>  and feel useless. I do not have a talking mobile and that's why I feel
>>> so.
>>>  but I simply ignore those messages. but the same may be of use to those
>>>  having mobiles.
>>>  so, this list is not a talking shop, insensitive, useless, futile and
>>>  unworthy as you said and your message is not a scientific test of it.
>>>
>>>  Umesha
>>>
>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>  From: "P. Subramani" <subramani6...@gmail.com>
>>>  To: "Kakarla Nageswaraiah" <nageswara1...@gmail.com>;
>>>  <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>  Sent: Sunday, 26 February, 2012 1:17 PM
>>>  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>>>
>>>
>>>  > Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Dear Kakarla, Thanks for your
>>> excellent
>>>  > suggestions/comments. I am simultaneously followingup in the channels
>>>  > suggested, surely,  i may not have the right to criticize the listers,
>>>
>>> but
>>>  > for this specific matter. I too have undergone the non-responses from
>>>  > listers on many of my posts for which I didn't react respecting the
>>>  > members' rights and all such posts were individual requirements. But
>>> this
>>>  > present case is affecting the masses. If not for such specific cases,
>>> I do
>>>  > not outburst. Surely you will appreciate the gravity of the matter
>>>  > especially the employment seekers point of view.
>>>  >  ----- Original Message -----
>>>  >  From: Kakarla Nageswaraiah
>>>  >  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>  >  Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:25 PM
>>>  >  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >  Hello,
>>>  >  Many a time, we don't get replies to our mails.  In such cases, try
>>> to
>>>  >  forward or change the subject line to attract the attention of the
>>>  >  listers.  Do not loose your ppatience; do not burst out with so many
>>>  >  negative comments.  It doesn't matter whether we, the listers deserve
>>>  >  such comments or not; you may think you have a right to write
>>>  >  criticising the  listers for their insensitivity to the problem you
>>>  >  posted.  But why don't you make use of the RTI Act to get a copy of
>>>  >  their recruitment rules?  Or why don't you seek justice by bringing
>>>  >  the matter to the notice of the CCPD?  Why don't you consult advocacy
>>>  >  cells set up by AICB, etc.?  I too did not get response to my
>>> requests
>>>  >  a number of times but I never complained.
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >  On 2/25/12, P. Subramani <subramani6...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>  >  > Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Although I agree with your
>>>  > contention of
>>>  >  > listers' choice to respond or not, If it was limited to me or a few
>>>  > fine.
>>>  >  > But this particular matter concerns the entire blind community
>>>  > especially
>>>  >  > the employment seekers and  and none seem to bother. So I am forced
>>>
>>> to
>>>  >  > question the knowledge-level and competency of the listers.  This
>>>  > matter is
>>>  >  > more of a general concern rather than an individual concern. Its
>>>  > terrible
>>>  >  > that a matter of this stature is treated or othervise differently.
>>> I
>>>  > am
>>>  >  > absolutely  right in my observations/remarks. P. Subramani
>>>  >  >   ----- Original Message -----
>>>  >  >   From: Bharat
>>>  >  >   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>  >  >   Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:28 PM
>>>  >  >   Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>>>  >  >
>>>  >  >
>>>  >  >   While I completely agree with the need for people to respond to
>>> your
>>>  >  >   thoughts, which indeed are important. however, you must realise
>>> that,
>>>  >  >   responding or, not to any particular mails, is people's own
>>> decision.
>>>  >  >   & I don't really think, you should this kind of things across to
>>> the
>>>  >  >   list.
>>>  >  >
>>>  >  >   On 2/25/12, P. Subramani <subramani6...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>  >  >   > [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
>>>  >  >   > ----- Original Message -----
>>>  >  >   > From: P. Subramani
>>>  >  >   > To: Kotian, H P ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>  >  >   > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:06 PM
>>>  >  >   > Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
>>>  >  >   >
>>>  >  >   >
>>>  >  >   > Hello! I am apalled to see no response to this mail enquiry
>>> from
>>>  > any
>>>  >  > group
>>>  >  >   > member on this extraordinary issue which concerns each and
>>> every
>>>  > blind
>>>  >  >   > person.  This clearly shows the incompetence of  all the
>>> members of
>>>  > this
>>>  >  >   > group on this very sensitive issue. You people  are just
>>> rangling
>>>  > with
>>>  >  >   > passionate and going at each other in many useless/futile
>>>  > discussions on
>>>  >  >   > things like books and mobiles. Its disgracing on your
>>> (members')
>>>  > part to
>>>  >  >   > simply ignore this kind of matters. When off-topic matters are
>>>  > posted by
>>>  >  >   > chance, each and everyone flood the mailbox with futile
>>> reactions.
>>>  > I
>>>  >  > just
>>>  >  >   > wonder  whether this group is just a talking shop for some
>>>  > non-sensical
>>>  >  >   > matters?  Despite having so-called knowledgeables in this
>>> group,
>>>  > this
>>>  >  > issue
>>>  >  >   > hasn't even received any reaction/suggestion.  I conclude  by
>>>  > saying
>>>  >  > this
>>>  >  >   > group like many other groups  is  exposing its insensitivity to
>>>
>>> the
>>>  >  > issues
>>>  >  >   > concerning the blind. Assuming this group was setup apart from
>>>  >  > discussing
>>>  >  >   > technology to the blind also all such matter/issues concerning
>>> the
>>>  >  > blind.
>>>  >  >   > This is one such test case where all you failed to come up
>>>  > necessary
>>>  >  >   > needful. This group remains useless/futile and unworthy. P.
>>>  > Subramani
>>>  >  >   >   ----- Original Message -----
>>>  >  >   >   From: Kotian, H P
>>>  >  >   >   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>  >  >   >   Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:34 PM
>>>  >  >   >   Subject: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
>>>  >  >   >
>>>  >  >   >
>>>  >  >   >   Hello
>>>  >  >   >   Forwarding a mail, which did not get to the list.
>>>  >  >   >   Harish Kotian
>>>  >  >   >
>>>  >  >   >
>>>  >  >   >   Quoting:
>>>  >  >   >
>>>  >  >   >
>>>  >  >   >   From: P. Subramani <mailto:subramani6...@gmail.com>
>>>  >  >   >   To: accessindia <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>  >  >   >   Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 2:24 PM
>>>  >  >   >   Subject: Recruitment rules!
>>>  >  >   >
>>>  >  >   >   A blin man has been disqualified due to diabetes while
>>> undergoing
>>>  >  > medical
>>>  >  >   > examinations in the recruitment process for group 'D posts in
>>>  >  > Southwestern
>>>  >  >   > Railways. I seek the guidance of knowledgeables in this regard.
>>>  > From
>>>  >  >   > whatever I foundout, there are no such rules of
>>> disqualification.
>>>  > The
>>>  >  > person
>>>  >  >   > is 40 years.Further needful actions/suggestions are invited
>>> from
>>>  > all.
>>>  >  > This
>>>  >  >   > is very urgent. P. Subramani d
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