Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Although this group is not the
ultimate, since it is storehouse, hence people come here for needful.
Asking me to leave the group is the other way of kicking me out of the
group which is not expected from you with the stature of being the
moderator. Rather than examining the matter impartially, your solutions
seems to be to throwout people. You seem to be narrow-minded in saying
the problem broughtout by me is the concern of only me as an individual
alone. This matter concerns the entire community which you haven't taken
into consideration and if the whole community fails to get solutions,
then all must leave the group. You are definitely partial to some with
their outbursts and pointing out mine. Since I initiated this discussion,
I shall have the last word. This threat should remain open for positive
contributions.
----- Original Message -----
From: harish
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
Hi All
Let me make it very plainly, that every one here has come by his / her
own
will.
At no point of time we had made any claims that AI is the ultimate answer
for all problems of the disabled.
This is a place to share and exchange information that one has picked up
at
any point of time. It is a store house of collective wisdom.
You may or may not get answers to your problem. That is how it is. Yes,
putting appropriate subject line and articulating the problem clearly
certainly helps.
All though I really don't intend to say this, however, looking at your
outburst, I am compelled to say that if this list fails to meet your
expectation levels, you need not continue with it.
May we now put to rest this deviation?
Harish Kotian
----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Subramani" <subramani6...@gmail.com>
To: "Umesha Economics" <umesha....@gmail.com>;
<accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
> Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!these are just vague excuses. By
> mistake, someone posts an off-topic matter, most if not all are up in
arms
> against the poster. I don't agree with the notion that subjectline
doesn't
> indicate actual matter. If off-topic mails can catch the attention of
> why not a mail routed through the moderator? Subjectline is quitre as
> the matter pertains to recruitment and its rules thereon. Also my mail
is
> very clear and his age was mentioned as more details would be of help.
> Forget all those who don't have any solutions in this regard, what
about
> those know such matters? Coming to the citing of moderator's comments
that
> all mails need not be replied to, it depends on the gravity of the
issue.
> Coming to discussion of useless maters, you need not remind me of the
> delet button as all computer users well-versed with that necessary
button
> and hence I do use to ignore such mails. Its ridiculous to say I am not
> the person to judge which is the otherway of deflecting from the main
> issue. I shall never take back my remarks and shall standby them.
> Moreover, you have failed to read my mail completely and understand as
> well.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Umesha Economics
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 3:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>
>
> dear friends,
> sorry for the late reply. Dear Subramani, first of all, I request you
to
> modify the first line of your message properly as your messages from
> 11:50
> am to 1:30 PM today were containing the subject lines in the message
body
> and making the reading difficult for the VI. coming to your comments,
> there
> may be various reasons for no response. first of all, there were some
> problems in your mail itself. your subject line was not clear and up
to
> the
> real problem. you wrote it as recruitment rules which does not carry
any
> message itself that a person is seriously affected by a current
burning
> problem. that's why the moderator is repeatedly telling about the
subject
> line. many people do not open the mails subjects of which do not
> interests
> them. that has already been rectified. the information given is not
> clear.
> whether disqualification is due to diabetes or blindness? you said you
> found
> out some thing about rules. did you find all the applicable laws which
> govern the recruitment of that job? if not, you have to get it through
> RTI
> or any other means as suggested by another member. you said the age of
> person 40 years. does this has anything to do with the
disqualification?
> or
> you put it just to emphasis his problem of not getting the job at the
> late
> age? you have to clarify these things before seeking legal opinion.
> other than the above, members may not knowing the answer even though
they
> want to help you. at that time, they keep quite. many a times, people
> will
> not be having enough time to reply to the messages as they may be busy
in
> their own engagements. I check the mails only once or twice and reply
> only
> if have enough time. recall the moderator's comment that everyone need
> not
> reply to every message.
>
> so, please take back your harsh remarks on the list and its members.
they
> are very offensive. responding to a message has nothing to do with
> knowledge
> and competence and you are not a competent person to judge them. I
have
> seen
> no off topic message flooding the replies since my entry. the
moderator
> is
> nipping them in the bud. you said the case affects every person. but
> other
> than off topic issues, all the matters are related to blind and any
one
> among them including yours can be argued to be affecting every other
> blind.
> this case may not also affect some of the blind persons. present case
is
> serious and I do not deny that. but before making negative comments on
> the
> matters, you have to see all these aspects.
> regarding useless discussions, you are not the judge for that. it may
be
> useless for you but useful for those who discuss them. for example, I
> also
> feel some times members discussing so much about mobiles, android and
> others
> and feel useless. I do not have a talking mobile and that's why I feel
> so.
> but I simply ignore those messages. but the same may be of use to
those
> having mobiles.
> so, this list is not a talking shop, insensitive, useless, futile and
> unworthy as you said and your message is not a scientific test of it.
>
> Umesha
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "P. Subramani" <subramani6...@gmail.com>
> To: "Kakarla Nageswaraiah" <nageswara1...@gmail.com>;
> <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Sunday, 26 February, 2012 1:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>
>
> > Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Dear Kakarla, Thanks for your
> excellent
> > suggestions/comments. I am simultaneously followingup in the
channels
> > suggested, surely, i may not have the right to criticize the
listers,
> but
> > for this specific matter. I too have undergone the non-responses
from
> > listers on many of my posts for which I didn't react respecting the
> > members' rights and all such posts were individual requirements. But
> this
> > present case is affecting the masses. If not for such specific
cases, I
> do
> > not outburst. Surely you will appreciate the gravity of the matter
> > especially the employment seekers point of view.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Kakarla Nageswaraiah
> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> > Many a time, we don't get replies to our mails. In such cases, try
to
> > forward or change the subject line to attract the attention of the
> > listers. Do not loose your ppatience; do not burst out with so
many
> > negative comments. It doesn't matter whether we, the listers
deserve
> > such comments or not; you may think you have a right to write
> > criticising the listers for their insensitivity to the problem you
> > posted. But why don't you make use of the RTI Act to get a copy of
> > their recruitment rules? Or why don't you seek justice by bringing
> > the matter to the notice of the CCPD? Why don't you consult
advocacy
> > cells set up by AICB, etc.? I too did not get response to my
requests
> > a number of times but I never complained.
> >
> >
> > On 2/25/12, P. Subramani <subramani6...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Although I agree with your
> > contention of
> > > listers' choice to respond or not, If it was limited to me or a
few
> > fine.
> > > But this particular matter concerns the entire blind community
> > especially
> > > the employment seekers and and none seem to bother. So I am
forced
> to
> > > question the knowledge-level and competency of the listers. This
> > matter is
> > > more of a general concern rather than an individual concern. Its
> > terrible
> > > that a matter of this stature is treated or othervise
differently.
> I
> > am
> > > absolutely right in my observations/remarks. P. Subramani
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Bharat
> > > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:28 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
> > >
> > >
> > > While I completely agree with the need for people to respond to
> your
> > > thoughts, which indeed are important. however, you must realise
> that,
> > > responding or, not to any particular mails, is people's own
> decision.
> > > & I don't really think, you should this kind of things across
to
> the
> > > list.
> > >
> > > On 2/25/12, P. Subramani <subramani6...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: P. Subramani
> > > > To: Kotian, H P ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > > > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:06 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello! I am apalled to see no response to this mail enquiry
from
> > any
> > > group
> > > > member on this extraordinary issue which concerns each and
every
> > blind
> > > > person. This clearly shows the incompetence of all the
members
> of
> > this
> > > > group on this very sensitive issue. You people are just
> rangling
> > with
> > > > passionate and going at each other in many useless/futile
> > discussions on
> > > > things like books and mobiles. Its disgracing on your
(members')
> > part to
> > > > simply ignore this kind of matters. When off-topic matters
are
> > posted by
> > > > chance, each and everyone flood the mailbox with futile
> reactions.
> > I
> > > just
> > > > wonder whether this group is just a talking shop for some
> > non-sensical
> > > > matters? Despite having so-called knowledgeables in this
group,
> > this
> > > issue
> > > > hasn't even received any reaction/suggestion. I conclude by
> > saying
> > > this
> > > > group like many other groups is exposing its insensitivity
to
> the
> > > issues
> > > > concerning the blind. Assuming this group was setup apart
from
> > > discussing
> > > > technology to the blind also all such matter/issues
concerning
> the
> > > blind.
> > > > This is one such test case where all you failed to come up
> > necessary
> > > > needful. This group remains useless/futile and unworthy. P.
> > Subramani
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Kotian, H P
> > > > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:34 PM
> > > > Subject: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello
> > > > Forwarding a mail, which did not get to the list.
> > > > Harish Kotian
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Quoting:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: P. Subramani <mailto:subramani6...@gmail.com>
> > > > To: accessindia <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 2:24 PM
> > > > Subject: Recruitment rules!
> > > >
> > > > A blin man has been disqualified due to diabetes while
> undergoing
> > > medical
> > > > examinations in the recruitment process for group 'D posts in
> > > Southwestern
> > > > Railways. I seek the guidance of knowledgeables in this
regard.
> > From
> > > > whatever I foundout, there are no such rules of
> disqualification.
> > The
> > > person
> > > > is 40 years.Further needful actions/suggestions are invited
from
> > all.
> > > This
> > > > is very urgent. P. Subramani d
> > > >
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