Hello Sir, Actually, the problem is that during public examinations (and also in school examinations in my case), one is normally given a `scrubbed laptop` simply having a word processor and nothing else. So, one really can't use any software to reproduce symbols. Also, many of these alternate ways of writing symbols that I am talking about are approved by bodies that allow for the original symbols to be used. For instance, in Organic Chemistry, there is branching in some molecules. Since branching cannot be reproduced on a computer, the International Union for Pure and Applied Chemistry (IUPAC), which is mandated with the responsibility of defining conventions and symbols, allows that the group being branched being enclosed in parenthesis. Regarding union, intersection and so forth, `u` is accepted generally. The only concern that I sometimes have is what if the person checking the answersheet does not read the note. But, I've not yet been able to figure out a way to check this.
Regards, On 11/16/12, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote: > I do not think writing note about one symbol implying another is a sound > idea. > If you can write them with computer using some software you should write, > otherwise not. > I am not sure whether symbols of logic can be so written, though there must > be some way of reproducing them on computer. > > And, friends, do not so despair of writers, there have been and are some > nice girls and guys who can write well and willingly so. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Kartik Sawhney > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 8:22 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] Complications with writers > > Hi, > > It actually depends what sort of formulae you want to write. For > instance, if I talk about the formulae that I deal with (in Physics, > Chemistry and Math), most of them can simply be written the same way > as any other text. Wherever I find that the formulae cannot be written > this way, I write it in an alternate manner and then, write a note > stating that the particular alternate symbol that I've used implies > the otherwise actual symbol. > > For instance, consider this simplest illustration. Consider two finite > sets having four elements each. If I am to find the arithmetic mean of > the intersection of the two elements, I will simply write it as: > > Let the two sets be A and B > > To find the mean of the intersection of sets A and B > > Let set C=A i B where i denotes intersection > Arithmetic mean=mean of elements in set C > > Note that this usually works in most cases. I've also been able to > manage calculus (both differential and integral), vector algebra, > among other topics this way. > > I'm sorry I'm not particularly sure of the content beyond class XII > Math and Science, and can't really give you a very detailed picture. > BTW, there are also software packages such as Latex etc. that can > enable you to achieve this. > > I'm talking about the Central Board of Secondary Education (CBSE), and > I will be taking the All India Senior School Certificate Examination > (AISSCE) (class XII Board Examinations) next year. > > Regards, > > > On 11/15/12, Umesha Economics <umesha....@gmail.com> wrote: >> dear Kartik, >> how can we write formulae? I need it very frequently. also happy to see >> that >> >> your board is flexible to accommodate both computer and a scribe >> simultaneously. can you give details of your board and exam? >> >> Umesha >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kartik Sawhney" <sawhney.kar...@gmail.com> >> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> Sent: Thursday, 15 November, 2012 11:00 AM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Complications with writers >> >> >>> Hi Rahul, >>> >>> You can, in fact, draw tables and write formulae, irrespective of what >>> nature they are in some way or the other. Even if you feel that the >>> formula that you're trying to write cannot be produced on a computer >>> any how (which is indeed very rare), you can simply create a >>> convention for yourself, and put a note to that effect. I've been >>> using screen readers to take all my exams including Math. I do >>> understand that diagrams cannot be drawn on the computer. But, what >>> you can do is ask your writer to draw only the diagrams for you and >>> attach it to the hardcopy of your answersheet. This is what I propose >>> to do in my Board exams next year. >>> >>> Regarding the scribe, I quite agree with Ajay. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> On 11/14/12, Ajay Minocha <ajayminoc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hi Rahul, >>>> Because of learning jaws too late, I too don't feel confident enough >>>> to aproach my college/ university to allow me to use screen readers >>>> and computers in exams. Though I can type without any problem but >>>> accountancy, economics, Mathematics, statistics were among some of >>>> those subjects about which I didn't find any practical sollution. So I >>>> preffer those writers who are good at spellings and vocabulary. I have >>>> a very symple logic and that is, In this world, not every person has a >>>> very sparkeling handwriting. But still if they are competent enough to >>>> pass their own exams with flying colours then, I can also trust them. >>>> And believe me this aproach has not let me down till now. >>>> regards >>>> >>>> On 11/14/12, Rahul Bajaj <rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Hi Vamshi Sir, >>>>> >>>>> As always, I appreciate your help. >>>>> The only reason why I am holding back as far as asking for permission >>>>> for solving exams with a screen reader is concerned is because I have >>>>> subjects like logic and economics in the first 2 years. >>>>> These subjects require you to draw tables, graphs, write formulae in a >>>>> certain manner, etc. >>>>> Do you think they will be willing to allow me to write theoretical >>>>> papers on the computer and others with a writer? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 13/11/2012, mukesh jain <mukesh.jai...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> hello sir, >>>>>> good suggestion. but if my exams are at near dates and if university >>>>>> is not ready/prepare to allow this facility then what should be the >>>>>> step. >>>>>> >>>>>> i have approached my university of scdl so many times to provide >>>>>> screen reader facility to give my examination independently as the >>>>>> mode of examination is already in online form. but then too they are >>>>>> not ready to consider this request. do we have to keep approaching >>>>>> judiciaries always for each and every requirements? >>>>>> thanks, >>>>>> mukesh. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11/13/12, Vamshi. G <gvamsh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> HI Rahul, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> First of all, I suggest you contemplate using computer for writing >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> exam. As you would be aware, Amar Jain from Mumbai has successfully >>>>>>> done it for law graduation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> coming to suggestions for a writer, I would prefer one who writes >>>>>>> correct spellings, even if the hand writing is not the best. I >>>>>>> would >>>>>>> give my own example for this. I had just enough vision to write >>>>>>> exams >>>>>>> till my post graduation. But I had one of the worst hand writings. >>>>>>> Yet I could score reasonably good marks. And with law being your >>>>>>> subject, you would have a few complicated spellings to dictate in >>>>>>> spite of the writers spelling knowledge. So, you wouldn't want to >>>>>>> dictate too many of them. Would you? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11/13/12, Rahul Bajaj <rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I hope you all are well and are having a wonderful Diwali. >>>>>>>> As you might be aware, I am a law student and am currently in my >>>>>>>> first >>>>>>>> year. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, I'm having some trouble in deciding a writer for my first sem >>>>>>>> exams. >>>>>>>> There are 2 people amongst whom I have to choose. >>>>>>>> One of them is a CA student and seems to be fairly okay, but her >>>>>>>> handwriting isn't very clear. >>>>>>>> The other person's handwriting is better, but she makes a lot of >>>>>>>> spelling mistakes while writing and it's not feasible or possible >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> me to dictate each and every tough spelling. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, I would really like to hear what you all have to say about this >>>>>>>> because many of you are far more experienced about these things >>>>>>>> than >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> am. >>>>>>>> There's One more area where I require your valuable suggestions. >>>>>>>> I have often noticed that writers sometimes do not write the exact >>>>>>>> words that I tell them and sometimes write a similar-sounding word >>>>>>>> without thinking that that word just doesn't fit into that sentence >>>>>>>> or just scribble something illegible or miss some words altogether. >>>>>>>> I do realise that it is only human and normal to make mistakes, but >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> would still like to know your views about what I can do better to >>>>>>>> reduce such mistakes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any other suggestions about time management while solving exams >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> writer, etc would be deeply appreciated. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> Rahul >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Search for old postings at: >>>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>>>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>>>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>>>>>>> changes, >>>>>>>> please >>>>>>>> visit the list home page at >>>>>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> G. 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