Well, avinash, science is not be confined to school and college labs only.
In fact its methods are really useful in organizing our lives, me thinks.
Love is not totally beyond reason, contrary to popular conception.
For example, disability is surely a relevant factor and its ramifications must 
be taken up in any prospective relationship.
Saying that love transcends all boundaries is just it: saying it...
Practically, scientific approach of deducing consequences, their probabilities, 
and then deciding accordingly according to one's priorities is called for.


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
avinash shahi
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:40 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] PARAVOOR:Mass wedding held for visually challenged

Rajesh sir, Since you have repeatedly used,and I've pored over again and again.
Can yu explicate your usage of 'Scientific Approach' with regard to marriage?

All human activities can not be understood while speculating  its
ramifications by keeping it on the radar of science.
intimate friendship can not be developed on scientific evaluation, it
just happens! and traits like faith, trust, love, cry, tears, and
laugh are not the invention of science but innate features of human
nature.
And all afore mentioned human traits are the essense of marital relationship.
No scientific approach can tell us that how much our lovers love us.
this can only be smelled, felt, and realised via faith, trust, and
compassion. in fact no one can see it...
Let me end here, getting too romantic in the month of Feb..
On 2/27/13, Kannan. C <kankal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>   Instead of many compromises, Its better to search within the group
> itself.
>   Birds of same feather flocks together.
>   So, Partially sighted men and women, can choose their partners as
> totally vision-less people.
>   They partially understood the mindset of their partner prior to marriage.
>   Based on this only cast based and community based marriages happening.
>
>
> With care and regards,
>
> Kannan ...
>
> Skype: kankale63
>
> On 2/27/2013 11:17 AM, Kapil wrote:
>> Hi friends, sighted can also be a good life patner specially in love
>> maridges but as far as arange r concern, it's hard to find a sighted of
>> equal status. Still if any VI wants arange maridge to a sighted then
>> definately he or she should ready for compromises. NGO'S r coming in this
>> field because families of VI persons r not performing their duties.
>> Reasons can be many. Yes, the NGO'S r comertialising and making profit
>> from this, but the needy r also the banificiary.      Whith best regard
>> kapil email kapil0...@gmail.com facebook i.d kapil.mitt...@facebook.com
>> mobile 09013386781
>>
>> -original message-
>> Subject: Re: [AI] PARAVOOR:Mass wedding held for visually challenged
>> From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
>> Date: 27/02/2013 10:13 am
>>
>> Well, how can you say that disability is a totally irrelevant factor and
>> we should not talk or discuss it in marriage or in employment?
>> Such an avoiding attitude would not serve anybody well.
>> Let us frankly face it and arrive at a decision based on scientific
>> approach and our personal preferences.
>>
>> Generalizing that blind/sighted marriage is more a escort and caretaker
>> relation and not a life parternership, is really insulting many couples
>> like myself....
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf Of Prashant Ranjan Verma
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 11:22 PM
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] PARAVOOR:Mass wedding held for visually challenged
>>
>> When advocating for employment of persons with disabilities we ask the
>> employer not to look at the disability but to verify the capability of
>> the
>> candidate to do the job.
>> Similarly in case of marriages we should not consider or talk about
>> disability of the partner, only consider mutual compatibility.
>>
>> I am unhappy that many disabled totally reject the idea of marrying a
>> disabled even though they may be preaching  "disabled can do everything".
>> They should not at least make disability a criteria when advertising for
>> a
>> partner.
>>
>> Marriage I think is the last and essential part of rehabilitation of a
>> person with disability. Arranging marriges for the disabled is a very
>> difficult and hazardous task and that is why most prominent NGOs are not
>> taking it up even though they realize the need for it.
>> We should not scare away people who are taking such steps now. We only
>> have
>> to make sure that no one is being forced to do anything.
>> And if anyone has better ideas on how it should be done, he/she should
>> take
>> the initiative and implement it independently or with any NGO.
>>
>> In my last 12+ years with the visually impaired community, I have found
>> marriage for the disabled to be the most challenging task. And I can
>> verify
>> that women with disability suffer most due to such attitudes and many of
>> them remain unmarried for life. The men initially try their best to get a
>> non-disabled or a partner with mild disability and when it is too late
>> have
>> to make lot of comprimises in selecting the partner. The spouse in those
>> cases is more of an escort and caretaker than a life partner.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Prashant
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of habeeb. c
>> Sent: 26 February 2013 22:50
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] PARAVOOR:Mass wedding held for visually challenged
>>
>> so much has been said on the topic. Yet i want to say a few remarks.
>> To hemangshu sir,
>> Even with my reservation on the term Mainstream, sorry to say that
>> probably
>> it was that single sentence remark of yours that had made me miss
>> understand
>> your sentiment. Sorry if i have hurt you. With regard to the role of NGO
>> even though i'm not an executive oficial of KFB, i can clearly say that
>> we
>> had forced nobody to be a part of this event, when lions club agreed for
>> such a proposal, we gave an advertisement, and some people came forward
>> and
>> the lions people helped them. Where have we committed a mistake here. IN
>> a
>> society where people are not able to get married on account of their
>> impairment, coupled with financial and social backwardness, when an NGO
>> becomes ready to help such people, you all mean that we are to tell them
>> that this may create a wrong message in the society and we don't want to
>> promote such a scheme. It inturn means that we prefer such people to
>> remain
>> bachilors. Even after the encouragement of the NGOs and the assistance
>> from
>> different quarters of society, Many of our VI friends are sceptical
>> regarding marriage. So what according to you all "Those who critisize
>> mass
>> marriages" is the solution for this problem. Last but not least, What is
>> the
>> objective of Marriage, Is it to become a part of main. stream.
>>
>> On 2/26/13, Subramani L <lsubramani.v...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> One thing is, marriages on mass forces people into a bracket of
>>> recipients of charity which is not a very positive thing. And again,
>>> it's absurd to look at marriage from disability perspective. If you
>>> all truely believe that you are differently abled, I'm sure someone is
>>> bound to find that different ability of your's. The question is
>>> whether marriages are events of solemnizing relationships between
>>> loving couples or if they are performed as a reinstatement of the
>>> charity message. I'm sure most of us have some reservations about the
>>> latter.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> Subramani
>>>
>>> P.S: Thanks to Payal for the correction. Regret the error.
>>>
>>> On 2/25/13, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I'm glad to read conflicting claims with regard to 'Mass Marriage
>>>> Melange'.
>>>>
>>>> and thought to join in this vibrant discussion and deliberation.
>>>>
>>>> Facilitating mass marriages of visually challenged has become an
>>>> entrepreneurial come social-service self-satisfying practice these
>>>> days.
>>>> in fact in many parts of the country, specially in mega metros and
>>>> mini metros, scores of marriages are arranged, and solemnized.
>>>> This growing phenomena raises many questions.
>>>> 1. Is getting married to a non-disabled really take you in the domain
>>>> of 'mainstream'?
>>>> When Actor seeks actress for marriage, player looks player for
>>>> marriage, poet desires  poetess for marriage, then why can't blind
>>>> man marry to a blind woman?
>>>>
>>>> Now question begs attention, who defines mainstream?
>>>> and is marrying to a non-disabled is enough to be called in the
>>>> mainstream?
>>>> I don't think so.
>>>> Choice of marriage is purely subjective. and if so called mainstream
>>>> occupants are morally bbound to accomodate marginalized, hence
>>>> marginalised have an ethical duty towards their fellow beings
>>>> irrespective of jender.
>>>> Marriage is not a constitutional right which one can expect from so
>>>> called mainstream people to accomodate the rest from  the periphery.
>>>> Marriage entails: mutual respect, equal concerns, and and love along
>>>> with sacrifice.
>>>> And mainstream is a myth, which celebrates untouchability, cheers
>>>> masculinity, and despises disability.
>>>>
>>>> Now will leave with two more questions Which need further
>>>> contemplation, but I'm not in a position to take any view; hope many
>>>> people here will put some light on these questions.
>>>> 1. Why NGOs Which are traditionally supposed to facilitate
>>>> educational and employable empowerment of visually challenged has
>>>> picked  up new attractive dimention in  their spheres to organize
>>>> marriage of visually challenged?
>>>> 2. And why adult blind people flock in huge numbers to seek spouse
>>>> via these NGOs?
>>>>
>>>> On 2/25/13, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
>>>>> I am compelled to congratulate Himanshu for his scientific approach..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Himanshu Sahu
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 2:20 PM
>>>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] PARAVOOR:Mass wedding held for visually challenged
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> Let me be very specific with the topic,
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.      It does not make any difference to me that which organization
>>>>> organized the mass wedding or what they have done earlier in this
>>>>> respect. This may be of liking to those who are involved in it or
>>>>> benefitted through it and publicizing it. Further I do not deny the
>>>>> necessity of such mass marriages and appreciate the initiative. But
>>>>> still my simple question remains unanswered that "how it brings VIs
>>>>> into mainstream"?
>>>>> 2.      Well, knowing me personally is not going to solve your
>>>>> confusion,
>>>>> but for the sake of correcting your hypothesis I am compelled to
>>>>> inform you that I lost eyesight 10 years back and have been the
>>>>> member of list for last 4 years. And I too know many of VI couples
>> friends.
>>>>> But here as well, as earlier, I am not able to understand that being
>>>>> new or old member of list, and, knowing VI couples or not, is how
>>>>> come related with the issue of bringing VIs into mainstream?
>>>>> 3.      In answer to your next question, I would only say that
>>>>> marrying
>>>>> within community or outside community and whether blind couple are
>>>>> happy or not, is a broad topic and I am not interested to deviate
>>>>> from the actual topic that is "how it brings VIs into mainstream"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Friend, in the zeal of getting your project acclaimed aren't you
>>>>> trying to establish a plain charitable mass marriage as inclusion of
>>>>> VIs into mainstream? Definitely mass marriage is a part of
>>>>> rehabilitation but not the inclusion into mainstream. I would have
>>>>> rather appreciated it if all VIs were married with sighted
>>>>> counterparts and then one would have called it as an attempt to
>>>>> bringing VIs into mainstream. Still the sighted world is well-known
>>>>> and well-established "mainstream" and all of hue and cry made by VI
>>>>> community has more or less similar theme to get incorporated into
>>>>> this mainstream as we are kept secluded from it.
>>>>>
>>>>> For the better clarification of the term "mainstream", please refer
>>>>> to the below mentioned some of the dictionary meanings of the term:
>>>>> "To incorporate into the prevailing group"
>>>>> "Representing the prevalent attitudes and values of a society or
>>>>> groups"
>>>>> And, "normal", "typical", "conventional" etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, it demonstrates that what we are talking about is not an attempt
>>>>> of incorporation into mainstream, and if one wishes to deny it have
>>>>> to innovate or forcefully create a new definition of incorporation
>>>>> into mainstream! And I extend my best wishes to those who want to do
>>>>> this novel Endeavour.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/24/13, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> By Express News Service - PARAVOOR
>>>>>> 24th February 2013 09:22 AM
>>>>>> Photos
>>>>>>   The mass wedding of visually challenged couples, held by the
>>>>>> Lioness Board, the women's wing of the Lion's Club of District 318
>>>>>> C, at Paravoor, on Saturday. As part of bringing physically
>>>>>> handicapped people into the mainstream, Lioness Board, the women's
>>>>>> wing of the Lion's Club, of  District 318 C, held a mass wedding
>>>>>> that saw 18 visually challenged couples taking marital vows at
>>>>>> Paravoor on Saturday.
>>>>>> http://newindianexpress.com/states/kerala/article1476830.ece
>>>>>> 'Porutham 2013', held at Paravoor Vyapara Bhavan, was inaugurated
>>>>>> by Lions Club district governor Abraham Panjikkaran. Union Minister
>>>>>> for Food and Civil Supplies K V Thomas was the chief guest at the
>>>>>> function.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While delivering the keynote address, Thomas said that the mass
>>>>>> wedding would be a model for the nation, and the event was an
>>>>>> occasion to learn how a society could be responsible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The couples were presented with 2.5 sovereigns of gold ornaments
>>>>>> each and `15,000 in cash.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The money was distributed by municipal chairperson Valsala
>>>>>> Prasannakumar and actor  Mythili. Aluva Rural SP Satish Bino
>>>>>> distributed financial aid for enabling self-employment for the
>>>>>> visually challenged couples.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  From 102 clubs under District 318 C, dresses and household
>>>>>> utensils, including pressure cookers, were given as gifts to the
>> newly-weds.
>>>>>> Club president Indira Bai Prasad, secretary Susheela Varghese, Prof
>>>>>> Monamma Kokkad, chief co-ordinator A Rajan, Human Rights Commission
>>>>>> chairman Justice Benjamin Koshy offered felicitations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Out of the 205 applicants, 18 couples were selected. The club would
>>>>>> conduct a mass wedding for 50 couples in 2014, said Indira Bai
>>>>>> Prasad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Avinash Shahi
>>>>>> MPhil Research Scholar
>>>>>> Centre for the Study of Law and Governance Jawaharlal Nehru
>>>>>> University New Delhi India
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