If the bill is to be passed, then the proposed changes have to be included. The bill is not good for the disabled in the current form, and waiting for an amendment may not be the smartest idea. Remember the PWD Act hasn't had one meaningful amendment in more than 18 years. We need a solid legislation, and the efforts should be to make the government bring about the essential changes in the bill before it is passed.
On 2/2/14, Shireen Irani <shireen....@gmail.com> wrote: > wouldn't that be more difficult?? just asking. because once u have > things on paper, things can be very difficult to change. and then most > of the officials involved will probably wash their hands off us > claiming that we are only creating mennace. > while it is true, that waiting for another 5 years is not a good idea, > there's no harm in going on pushing till the endth hour. if things > cant change, then the bill can be passed as is. > my other worry is that they might turn around and say that all this > should have been thought of, while making the bill itself. its > probably not very smart to pass the bill, and then immediately fight > for amendments. > of course experts will know better, this is just of the top of my head. > > On 2/2/14, li...@srinivasu.org <li...@srinivasu.org> wrote: >> >> >> Avinash. >> One thought: can we not get this bill passed and then push for amendment? >> >> I saw someone on this list asking Mr. Abidi that why did he not see the >> bill >> before putting efforts to get the bill tabled? I think it's also >> responsibility of everyone. Why did author of that email brought up the >> issues before? >> >> I agree with Kanchan that current drafted bill is better than the >> existing >> one. Yes, there are issues but friends, do you think if we miss this >> session, do we get the law soon? >> >> I sincerely feel we should now get it passed and then put in strong >> efforts >> to get the amendments. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Srinivasu Chakravarthula >> Mobile: +91 990 081 0881 >> Website: http://www.srinivasu.org |http://sgaccessibility.com >> Follow me on Twitter:http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu >> >> Sr. Accessibility Lead at PayPal >> Founder at Sai Gagan Accessibility Solutions >> Hon. Joint Secretary at The National Association for the Blind, Karnataka >> Branch >> http://about.me/srinivasuc >> >> Sent from my iPhone 4S >> >>> On 02-Feb-2014, at 22:17, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Its not eutopia mam. >>> India have pledged to bring in its domestic law in conformity with the >>> UNCRPD and this approved law has violated many of UNCRPD's fundamental >>> principles. >>> Better we mend this law within the time otherwise we have struggled >>> enough to see implementation of PWD and this bill if gets passed in >>> its current form, we particuarly blind will be the biggest loser. >>>> On 2/2/14, KanchanPamnani <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Avinash and others, >>>> This is not a black law. It is not the best law that we can get but it >>>> is >>>> not black as you paint it. >>>> >>>> Please understand that this law is better than we have to some extent >>>> and >>>> with the non-negotiables on the table it is better than we can imagine. >>>> >>>> Yes we wanted more and yes we were sure we would get more but I don't >>>> think >>>> we will get more if we wait another 5 years. >>>> >>>> The reality is that if we miss this session of Parliament then we will >>>> have >>>> to wait for another government, another minister, another committee but >>>> the >>>> same set of disabled and Disability leaders and the same bureaucracy >>>> and >>>> the >>>> same kind of Legislature. >>>> >>>> We did quite a lot with our old PWD and we can do a lot with the >>>> current >>>> draft along with the non-negotiables. Should we not strive for better >>>> or >>>> should we only look for utopia? >>>> Kanchan >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of avinash shahi >>>> Sent: 02 February 2014 18:56 >>>> To: jnuvision; accessindia; sayeverything >>>> Subject: [AI] Do join: Protest at the Official residence of DOPT >>>> Minister, >>>> V. 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