hello mr . bhawani shankar verma as you have suggested me earlier i am trying to fill i t r 1 form online but i could not find deduction of transport allowance box in this form and they have given the note that the sum of 80 c and 80 ccc and 80ccd should not be more than 1 lakh . in 80 ccd there are 2 boxes one is for employer contribution and second is for employee contribution but in my 16 a form they have included only employee contribution and these two problems are stopping me to fill the i t r 1 form online please suggest me what should i do or give me your mobile number so i can talk to you . navneet
On 7/18/14, Alok Kaushik <alok_kaus...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi Prashant, > Thanks for sharing this. This could be a good approach if: > > 1. Questions are randomly generated and is not a closed set of questions. > 2. Application that is generating the random question needs to be > intelligent enough to determine the correct answer. > 3. Questions need to be more complex than the examples mentioned. For > example, 'which color' text is a clear indication of information needed, and > > all the words of the question could be scanned against the color names. > > Recently I was reading about algorithms to programatically derive logical > conclusions from English sentences and paragraphs. They are targeted at the > > kind of questions mentioned here. Such algorithms are published in academic > > content for advanced level computer science students studying artificial > intelligence, which is gaining popularity by each passing day. > > Challenging part is that individuals from whom systems are to be protected > are not too far behind than those who create those systems. None the less, > if the questions are complex enough, it could still work for another few > years. > > Thanks. > Alok > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Prashant Verma" <prashant...@gmail.com> > To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerningthe disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 3:26 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR forms > > >> How about using logical questions? Even if the text is legible to the >> robot >> or script, it may not be able to decipher and answer it. See one of my >> emails below. >> >> In place of the visual image based CAPTCHA which are not accessible to >> several users including the visually impaired, Text CAPTCHA or Logic >> Questions should be used. These logic questions provide the needed >> security >> to the website and at the same time are accessible to everyone. THE web >> accessibility guidelines also recommend use of these alternate types of >> CAPTCHA. Note that the audio CAPTCHA is also not an alternative since for >> many users including visually impaired it is not easy to both listen to >> the >> much distorted audio and type the text at the same type on the website. >> Few >> examples of Text based CAPTCHA is given below. More information on Text >> Captcha is available on the internet and also on http://textcaptcha.com/ >> >> If the duck is pink, what colour is it? >> The list blue, shorts, snake and pink contains how many colours? >> What's seventeen minus six? >> Also see this Indian Government website which has implemented text >> CAPTCHA: >> http://web.guidelines.gov.in/help.php >> >> >> Thanks, >> Prashant >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf >> Of Alok Kaushik >> Sent: 18 July 2014 13:50 >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning >> the disabled. >> Subject: Re: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR forms >> >> Hi Bhawani, >> I have myself been thinking about an alternative solution for captcha. It >> >> is >> not as simple. Putting a captcha code in clear text or putting a simple >> mathematical question in clear text would not fulfil the purpose. Basic >> idea >> is to have something that can be done only by human action and not by any >> script. Any clear text can be easily captured by a script. >> >> While doing some research earlier I came across captcha approaches that >> used >> audio captcha along with second-by-second rewind and forward options. It >> also used to play the next one second of audio captcha when one character >> >> is >> typed in the captcha text box. However, I feel the need for refinement >> even >> in that as well. >> >> Another approach is to created a centralized web based OCR service that >> could be invoked by a manual action on a web page. This can be considered >> this a superior version of webvizum that can be used by all browsers. >> >> I have also heard that recent version of JAWS has built-in OCR engine >> that >> could read text within graphics. However, I have not used it and I am not >> sure whether it can resolve a captcha. >> >> Another approach is to uncover a clear text that could be uncovered only >> through a manual action. >> >> One more approach is to use registered email id or phone number to receive >> >> a >> one time password as an alternative to captcha text. >> Several other innovative approaches could be thought through and created >> and >> / or proposed. >> >> Thanks. >> Alok >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "bhawani shankar verma" <bsvermad...@gmail.com> >> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and >> issuesconcerning >> thedisabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 12:31 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR forms >> >> >>> they can convert their graphics in to text. or they can give a >>> mathmaticle question and user should type its answer. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Alok Kaushik >>> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 11:53 AM >>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and >>> issuesconcerning thedisabled. >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR forms >>> >>> Hi Bhawani, >>> Thanks for this. Will try the online form. >>> >>> Yes, captcha definitely is a barrier. However, I think that we may not >>> be able to do away with it unless an accessible alternative to it is >> created. >>> What we need to put across to the concerned entities is to find an >>> alternative to captcha rather than removing it. There are strong >>> enough arguments for introducing captcha, and they would be convincing >>> enough on any forum. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> Alok >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "bhawani shankar verma" <bsvermad...@gmail.com> >>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and >>> issuesconcerning thedisabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 7:19 AM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR forms >>> >>> >>>> you can file ITR online. it is accessible with jaws. but, before >>>> login you have to type the image capture. I have a strong opinion to >>>> file a petition against govt of india regarding this capture code and >>>> full accessibility of all the websites including private sector >>>> service providers like telecom, electricity, banking etc. >>>> I also can not understand why these people are stucked with java. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Alok Kaushik" <alok_kaus...@hotmail.com> >>>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 8:17 PM >>>> Subject: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR forms >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> Income tax department has released Java based income tax return >>>>> forms that are completely inaccessible with JAWS. Excel version was >>>>> partially accessible but it is still not available for ITR 4. For >>>>> other ITRs excel version of forms was recently released. >>>>> >>>>> I want to chek on the following points. >>>>> >>>>> 1. Has anyone already taken up this issue with the income tax >>>>> department? >>>>> 2. Does anyone know the concerned person(s) or department within IT >>>>> department that can be contacted for this? >>>>> >>>>> I have already inquired several times on the e-filing helpline number. >>>>> >>>>> Of course, the matter can be reported to CCPD but for now I am >>>>> looking for the concerned people or team in the income tax department. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> Alok >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing >>>>> accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_a >>>>> ccessindia.org.in >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Search for old postings at: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>>>> changes, please visit the list home page at >>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.o >>>>> rg.in >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Disclaimer: >>>>> 1. 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