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Topics of the day:

  1. FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
  2. TRUNCATED DIGESTS (3)
  3. Capture a site for off-line viewing
  4. CAN'T GET ZIPPED STUFF.
  5. about joining tech_newz
  6. seeknfind (was: SearchnFind is *no* list...)
  7. Help with Lynx
  8. HOW CAN I DOWN A FILE FROM HTTP:// BY MR.COOL?
  9. Hexadecimal/ASCII conversions
 10. I can't hinder myself from saying: Thank you masters!
 11. Roadmap (was can't hinder...)
 12. Inference.com search engine

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Date:    Wed, 27 Jan 1999 06:01:22 GMT
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Date:    Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:46:59 PST
From:    "Jerel D. Arbaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TRUNCATED DIGESTS

>Date:    Sun, 24 Jan 1999 04:44:58 EST
>From:    David Ames <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: TRUNCATED DIGESTS
>
>
>Although I receive my ACCMAIL digest intact using Juno E-mail, when I
>forward the digests to my office (which uses GroupWise), there is a
>severe truncation problem.
>
...
>
>In some cases the digest is not converted to an attachment, although
>clearly all digests are of a size that ought to be converted.  In such a
>case I seem to get a document of 2 pages.  In some other cases, most of
>the attachment is successfully transmitted, but not all.  In some cases,
>the entire document is s uccessfully transmitted.
>
I do not get truncated digests here, but this may be partly due to using
juno V1 on W3 not V2 on W9x.

Try sending a "set accmail nomime" command, as juno tends to be more
forgivving to non-mime messages, and the mime stuff adds bulk to each
message.

And the juno limit without truncating is 60K (not 64K) not counting the
headers.  The 64K limit is including headers.  In digest mode, the
individual message geaders should count as body, with only the main
digest header (above the TOC) counted as header.

31 Digests from December of 1998 total 430668 Bytes.  Average of under
14KB each, but non-mime.  (that number includs some, but not all,
headers.)
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Date:    Wed, 27 Jan 1999 00:44:50 -0800
From:    Amaury Merlano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Capture a site for off-line viewing

I remember a program that let me download an enterie page or site with
graphics and all.

Do any of you of such a software.

Amaury

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Date:    Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:56:30 PST
From:    "Jerel D. Arbaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CAN'T GET ZIPPED STUFF.

>Date:    Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:47:49 +0300
>From:    Esmail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: CAN'T GET ZIPPED STUFF.
>
>I use Outlook Express+Win 98. When i download a zipped file using
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to get zipped files from the same site,
>the messages are split up into separate sections. The 1st message
contains a zip file attachment, but its size is a small fraction
>of what the whole zip should be. The rest of the messages have garbled
text in the body, no atchmnt. (text which you find if you
>open an executable in notepad) Help me find a way to 'combine' the
message and make it readableto winzip. the first atchmnt is 'not
>a complete zip file'. that's what winzip says.
>
>ZAK
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>THANKS in advanced
>
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This IS in the FAQ: What is happening is that your software is decoding
the first part only, and not the others.  It may be best if you can set
the software to not decode UU attachments, then use an external decoder
that can process multiple parts to create the zip file.  The other
method(s) are listed in the FAQ.
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Date:    Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:44:38 +0530
From:    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: about joining tech_newz

HELLO
 I wanted to join the  tech_newz mailing list but when I tried to join
the list I got the following message and since then I recieved  no reply
from them. What should I do??

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Date:    Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:01:04 GMT
From:    Virginia Da Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TRUNCATED DIGESTS

On  Sun, 24 Jan 1999 04:44:58 EST
David Ames <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Although I receive my ACCMAIL digest intact using Juno E-mail, when I
>forward the digests to my office (which uses GroupWise), there is a
>severe truncation problem.

>Juno has a limit of 64K and does not forward attachments.  GroupWise has
>a  limit of 8192 bytes and converts anything over that size to an
>attachment.


My ISP imposes no real limits on size of mailbox (within reason!) and I have
often received mail of up to 3MB, so there's no problem there. Anything like
attachments are automatically uu- or mime- encoded, but Accmail of course always
comes in plain ascii.

I download my mail via qwk packets and read it on my favourite text-based OLR,
which unfortunately will not accept more than 1000 lines - any mail larger than
this I then read on another GUI OLR, and have never had any trouble there. In
fact, the only times I've ever had truncation problems have been with Accmail.

>So there are three places we might look to find the truncation problem:
>in the E-mail client program (since I have a problem with GroupWise but

I don't think that's the problem in my case (see above)

>not with Juno), with the ISP or whatever serves as intermediary (since I
>have a problem at the office, which receives everything through a
>gateway),

No problem here either!

>and with the document itself (it is possible that the document
>contains a control character that makes the E-mail client or the gateway
>go goofy).

Now that's an interesting speculation! Anyone got any ideas on this?
In any case, I'm not alone with this problem!

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Date:    Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:42:51 +0100
From:    Frits Westra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: seeknfind (was: SearchnFind is *no* list...)

Dear Dr Klemm and List,

Referring to your below massage, I'd like to let you know that I'm
subscribed to 17 mailing lists at onelist.com and I manage every one
of these subscriptions by e-mail only.

I noticed that in your subject line it says SearchnFind; could it be
that you have used a wrong command line? The list name is "seeknfind"

So, to set onelist subscriptions to digest, send the message:

        <listname>[EMAIL PROTECTED]

(Listname without brackets)

Hope this helps.

Sincerely,
Frits Westra -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>From:    "Dr. Uwe Klemm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: SearchnFind is *no* list for strict accmailers !!
>
>However, once you're subscribed to the list, you can set to digest by
>sending a blank e-mail to:
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>This works for every mailing list at http://www.onelist.com
>You'll get one big message every 24 hours or so.
>I tried just that - w/o any feedback or change in msg stream
>Eventually they referred me to www-clicking, which is out of reach
>for me.
>Hence my warning in the subject line.Ragards,

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Date:    Wed, 27 Jan 1999 15:00:54 +0530
From:    "Hariharasudhan R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with Lynx

Hi All,
        I want to know the commands and key combinations in Lynx.
Mainly I want to know how to enable Cookies in Lynx.
Please help or direct me to such information.

Thanx in advance,
Hari.

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Date:    Wed, 27 Jan 1999 20:00:49 +0800
From:    =?hz-gb-2312?B?fns3azxMNit+fQ==?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HOW CAN I DOWN A FILE FROM HTTP:// BY MR.COOL?

HI,HEllo.
HOW CAN I DOWN A FILE FROM HTTP:// BY MR.COOL?
THANKS VERY MUCH

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Date:    Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:26:35 PST
From:    "Jerel D. Arbaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hexadecimal/ASCII conversions

>Date:    Fri, 22 Jan 1999 04:13:32 -0800
>From:    mary m boondy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: <No subject given>
>
>Hi all
>
>If anybody can point me to some good info on converting this
>hex,decimal,octal,etc.,and there relationship ?Confused....
>FAQ?
>TIA.
>George.
>

I guess a mini hex/ascii chart should be in the FAQ's.

  2   2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 3   3 3 3 3 3 3 3 4 4
  0   1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F 0   9 A B C D E F 0 1
SPACE ! " # $ % & ' ( ) * + , - . / 0   9 : ; < = > ? @ A

5 5 5 5 5 5 6 6   7 7 7 7 7 7
A B C D E F 0 1   A B C D E F
Z [ \ ] ^ _ ` a   z { | } ~ DEL

The DEL above is NOT the DEL or Delete key on your PC keyboard.  Values
with first digit greater than 7 are NOT standard ASCII, and the character
shown is dependant on the font/code-page/hardware settings.  Values with
first digit of 0 or 1 are "control" characters.  While some hardware can
display these, they are intended for functions, not display.

The windows Calculator, in "Scientific" mode, can do
Decimal/Octal/Hexadecimal conversions.  After converting to decimal, PC
users can enter the character by holding down [alt] while typing in the
decimal value ON THE NUMBER PAD. (release [alt] between characters)
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Date:    Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:45:11 PST
From:    "Jerel D. Arbaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TRUNCATED DIGESTS

Hint to posters: If you MUST quote the begin line from an encoded file,
please change the three digit number to ###, so as to help prevent this
type of problem.

>Date:    Sat, 23 Jan 1999 00:33:34 GMT
>From:    Virginia Da Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: TRUNCATED DIGESTS
>
>Most of my recent Accmail digests (at least 3 or 4 a week) have been
arriving
>badly truncated, sometimes after the second or third message. I've
contacted my
>ISP who've informed me that it's nothing to do with them, and must have
happened
>somewhere else along the line!
>
>Does anybody else have these problems? And is there anything which can
be done
>about it? It's really most annoying - I know I can get the missing parts
from
>the archives but it's not quite the same as receiving them immediately.
>
>Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
>
>borracha
>---
> þ MR/2 2.1 NR þ
>
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The most common cause of this, is a begin ### sequence (usually near the
beginning of a line) imbedded in the digest.  I would not expect
MegaReader, not even an OS/2 version (Is that not what MR/2 is above?) to
be affected by this, but...

What happens with some readers is that they see the begin ### line, and
think that is the beginning of a UU-encoded file, and block the rest of
the message, in this case the rest of the digest, from showing in the
text display.  Simultaneously, they attempt to provide a decoded
"attachment".

The cure is to disable automatic recognition of this type of attachment,
both for this, AND to prevent problems with multi-part attachments.

The other cure may be to not take the list as digests.
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Date:    Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:36:13 +0530
From:    "Hariharasudhan R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I can't hinder myself from saying: Thank you masters!

Hi All,


On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, Saeed Azizieh wrote:

#The least act to thank these persons is to read carefully their
#guides and also Netiquette of Patrick Crispans before sending any
#............    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I want to know where I can find  Netiquette of Patrick Crispans.

Thanx in advance,
Hari.


"Computers don't do what you want them to, they do what
you tell them to do"
                        ~Author unknown

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Date:    Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:36:36 -0800
From:    "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Roadmap (was can't hinder...)

At 10:36 PM 1/27/99 +0530, Hariharasudhan R. wrote the following:

>I want to know where I can find  Netiquette of Patrick Crispans.

Patrick Crispen's Roadmap 96
http://netsquirrel.com/roadmap96/syllabus.html


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Date:    Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:03:26 -0800
From:    "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Inference.com search engine

Accmailers,

Yesterday I tried my favorite search engine, InferenceFind, and noticed
that they had completely redone the web interface. They made search
page better but addded frames - ugh. Well, I wrote a note to the
webmaster and asked if they could remove the frames. Well lo and
behold, when I tried it this morning, the frames were goooooone!

Now that is what I call service. So we can still use InferernceFind by
E-mail methods easily.
My FAQ is old but still OK. For those wanting to use Getweb or
www4mail, the page is: http://www.infind.com/

send http://www.infind.com/infind/infind.exe?query=spam&time=7
send http://www.infind.com/infind/infind.exe?query=frog+dissection&time=7

Standard Search
send http://www.infind.com/infind/infind.exe

Enter Query:
?query= (search terms separated by "+" 256 characters maximum)

MaxTime:
&time=7 (default - seconds to wait)
     =1, 5, 7, 10, 30


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