At 07:19 PM 7/28/2002 +0700, Gue wrote the following:

>I was googling something yesterday, and by accident, I found ACCMail
>list archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/accmail@listserv.aol.com/
>
>I think it's no good. SPAMMER can harvest our mail address from this
>site because this site do not hide email address. Whoever you are,
>please remove our list from mail-archive.com . If we need to search past
>message, LISTSERV command have very good commands for searching archives.

I added the site to mail-archive way back in 1998 or 1999 just after they
started. If you notice, the mail archives at Accmail expire every 6 months
or so. There was a period of time when members were interested in answers
with sample accmail methods to questions that had been asked previously but
had expired from the Accmail archives. Several members had keep the
archives on their own machine and made them available to other users. I
liked the idea that mail-archive would keep records forever so added our
mailing list to it.

Do you really think that a person interested in sending spam will access
the mail archive and then read message by message trying to harvest e-mail
address from which to spam? I hardly think so, when there are far easier
methods.

If you check with all the bulk e-mail programs, the e-mail addresses are
harvested from USENET (far and away the largest source of addresses)
seconded by web pages with mailto links. Getting addresses from mailing
lists is now just to much work especially since LISTSERV (the largest
mailing list manager) doesn't send e-mail addresses to people who request
an index listing -- the method used in the past to obtain a list of e-mail
addresses. The robots that travel the web use web pages and USENET postings.

To access a mailing list that is archived is just about impossible because
the robot would have to access the archive and then select message by
message. Most robots just select pages that are indexed. In addition, the
mail archive also uses the meta tag  [META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex"].

I can guarantee that my e-mail address has been harvested from my web page
and also USENET postings, not from mailing lists that I belong too and not
from the mail-archive web site.


--
Gerry Boyd

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