I forget what version of 4D you said you came from, but if it was v13 or lower, try your setup with the new network layer OFF in 4D server. We've definitely seen some stability issues with the new network layer ON, using v15.4.
Note that if you're using Mac 64-Bit, the new network layer is forced on and you can't turn it off. But on Windows 64 bit server, you can turn this setting off. ________________________________________ From: Active4D-dev [[email protected]] on behalf of Aparajita Fishman [[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 4:29 PM To: Active4D Developer Discussion List Subject: Re: [Active4d-dev] Active4D Slowdown then Stall (weird A4D_HTTPD_RequestHandler_* behavior) It’s entirely possible there is some flaw in the new server code. The main change I made to A4D_HTTPD_RequestHandler was the correct handling of keep-alive connections. If you find out any more details, please post them here. All the best, - Aparajita > On Apr 24, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Perkins, Bradley D <[email protected]> wrote: > > Peter and Aparajita, > > Thank you both for your responses. I have been testing our development > system with a higher MaxThreads this morning. I haven't been able to > exhaust all of the threads. I was able to crash 4D through. I'll send > Aparajita the crash log. > > Peter, your observations are very similar to what we've seen. Under v14 -- > and even with the broken keep alive feature -- we could run for a long > time with no problems. Reboots were usually because I had to reboot the > Windows server to install MS Security Patches. > > Our production system sees a fairly light load and would normally never > see the loads that I'm placing on it with ApacheBench unless IT is running > a cyber scan. I'm letting it run as is with the earlier configuration to > see if the problem is because we've exhausted the thread pool. We haven't > allocated an additional thread since I restarted on Saturday. Our > ThreadStack size was already set to 256 (docs show 128 as default). > As Peter notes, It could be that the problem lies elsewhere such as in in > 4D itself. > > We upgraded hardware, OS, 4D, NTK, and Active4D. That is a lot of change. > > -- Brad > > On 4/24/17, 9:09 AM, "Active4D-dev on behalf of Aparajita Fishman" > <[email protected] on behalf of > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Increase MaxThreads in the A4D_NTKConfig list. I am increasing this to >> 100 by default in the next release, and I am also adding code to reclaim >> unused threads after a configurable delay. >> >> All the best, >> >> - Aparajita >> >>> On Apr 24, 2017, at 4:51 AM, Peter Gutbrod <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Brad, >>> >>> I see something similar since I've upgraded 4D-Server to V16 and NTK/A4D >>> to the newest version. >>> >>> Before the server could run für month without any issue. After the >>> upgrade the server slows down within 1-2 days up the point, where each >>> request can take 10 seconds or even more. According to the 4D admin >>> panel there are cpu or network intensive tasks running. Server is almost >>> idle, tons af free memory for 4D. Nothing suspicious in Windows >>> performance monitor. Rebooting 4D and the slow-down is gone - for the >>> next couple of hours, then it slowly reappears. >>> >>> I realized the slowdown in a JSON API. First I thought it is something >>> within my A4D code, so I've calculated the time my A4D code needs to >>> run. But I found the slowdown happens while receiving the request. Once >>> A4D starts executing the code, everything runs fast, including sending >>> the response. >>> >>> I've asked Rob from the pluggers, whether he had heard about slowdows >>> with the new version of NTK but he wasn't aware of any problems. >>> >>> In a period, where I wasn't able to restart 4D server periodically, >>> slowdown got so extreme, that 4D clients were unable to login due to >>> timeouts. In that state the only way to restart the 4D server was with a >>> force quit. That convinced me, that the culprit is within 4D V16 and not >>> NTK or A4D and I should wait for 4D 16.1 and until then restart 4D >>> Server periodically. 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