On Thursday 03 January 2013 21:11:21 Marco Martin wrote: > On Thursday 03 January 2013, Artur Dębski wrote: > > I talked to Thomas today. Here comes summary as requested: > first of all: grat job! it's a badly needed application and i think is > pretty near to be really good looking :)
Agreed. I'm really looking forward to it! > > - Thomas suggested different method of setting you status message. To do > > it > > now you have to enter status selection mode and click on the button next > > to > > it. I disliked it but couldnt think of anything else. Thomas idea was to > > spilt the button clickable area into to part: icon and text. When you > > click > > on text you enter message editing mode. When you click on icon you enter > > status selection mode. It will be easier to use and will save you one step > > when changing status message. > > it can just stay a lineedit, in this case is obvious it's always editable > and there are no "modes" Possible, but I'm not sure about it. I don't think people edit their status messages often enough to warrant a permanent lineedit. It has a strong typing affordance... > > - Active conversations sidebar will be overlay drawer as primarliy > > intended. It looks like the feature I was seeking was just not implemented > > yet. It should be available now. > > > > - The contacts list will end up in the split drawer as well. When drawers > > were created there was an assumption the applications will have only one > > drawer (if any), and it will be positioned on the right. In KTp Active it > > feels ok to have two drawers at the same time. The reason behind this is > > to > > give user a possibility to hide whole contact list to save space on > > smaller > > devices. However we will have to wait for this. This feature takes some > > work to implement and was not scheduled by PlasmaActive team. > > just wondering: there seems to be plenty of space anyways.. any particular > use case for wanting to close the contact list? > i can think about very small screens or vertical ones Exactly, these two ;) It's useless on a Wetab, but on a 7" screen (or even smaller if you're on a smartphone) you may want more space for the actual conversation and only show the contact list when you actually need it. > > - Thomas was not so sure about the menu sidebar idea. I kind of insisted > > it > > stayed as it is. Its meant to give you options not only related to contact > > list, such as link to application settings dialog. You can toggle its > > visibility and since it isnt using much space I imagine some people who > > want to have it visible all the time. > > what is it? the round buttons at a side? > I'm really not sure about them: at the moment they add quite a fair amount > of visual noise (especially because they have a background always there) > and are not really clear to me what they do, i would have to press them and > see the effect to discover what they are about. > > a side note: > The oxygen icons don't work that well in active, especially for actions. > They are ok, but only if in any given moment there aren't more than 2-3 > together in the same screen. Maybe we'll find a better way to present these actions, yes. > > - The lightbulb idea was appreciated. > > what does the lightbulb icon exactly? > again, if those actions were in a menu of only text, except the 2 or 3 more > used te effect is probably slightly better. > > just a couple of other comments related to the look (meant in a purely > constructive way eh ;) > * if the sidebar is directly attached to the edge not only removes that > column of icons but also the left shadow, that is an element more in the > screen > > * what is used as background for the contact list? there is a standard > element for that that is a bit more light (and will probably become even > more) > > * bold text should usually be avoided (we still have to implement in a good > way font guidelines) Ah yes, the font guidelines... I guess we'll have to sit together with Andrew and Aaron to think about how we can actually implement Andrew's suggestions soon. > * toolbars: would be possible to merge the two top toolbars in just one? > (again by limiting the number of actions to the bare minimum) > right now the bottom one is also displayed with all the 4 borders, adding > more graphical elements > > * instead a place where it may look better *adding* a toolbar is the > textarea used to write a message: right now the messages kindof disappear > into nothing and most components don't work too much in the blue area, if > there was a toolbar around (arranged in a way only the top border is > visible) the messages would look like they are scrolling behind it, would > look more organic > > * messages: now the dialogs/background element of framesvg has a balloon-tip > element (just a little triangle), it may be used as a comic balloon tip to > connect the avatars and the message frame Oh yes, absolutely, the triangle would make sense here. _______________________________________________ Active mailing list [email protected] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/active
