Checked for an AT job running under the old creds? Seen that often.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Creamer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 12:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] account lockout troubleshooting


Yep, one is the PDCE. That would explain the same event at the same time on 2 DCs. But 
here's the strange thing. The users log on successfully. They work with no problem for 
a while with apps running like Outlook (to Exchange 2000), IE, open Office files on a 
file server, etc. Suddenly they can't work anymore - again, just as if someone else 
was locking out the account. But the events are coming from the user's own PC only.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Coleman, Hunter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 3:17 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] account lockout troubleshooting

Is one of the DCs your PDC emulator? Normally, if a user attempts to authenticate to a 
DC with an incorrect password (error code 3221225578), that DC will redirect the 
authentication to the PDC emulator for an "authoratative" response. This covers the 
case where a user's password has changed but not fully replicated to all DCs. The PDC 
emulator would know about the change, so checking there would validate the login 
attempt or reject it if appropriate.

Hunter




From: Creamer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 12:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] account lockout troubleshooting
Hi folks,
I have been trying to troubleshoot some lockout events. In every case, the event 
originates on the user's own workstation (not some other user). There are no 
associated file object failures on the primary file server. It seems like it is 
application-based, but I can't nail it down. I've been using Microsoft's AL tools, 
including EventCombMT, but I can't use the acctinfo.dll because the clients are Win9x. 

Today I noticed for the first time that on 2 DCs, the exact same 5 login failures 
occurred (one example follows):

681,AUDIT FAILURE,Security,Tue Oct 07 13:13:38 2003,NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM,The logon to 
account: MYUSER    by: MICROSOFT_AUTHENTICATION_PACKAGE_V1_0    from workstation: 
\\HIS_PC    failed. The error code was: 3221225578    

I was concerned that I didn't think it is normal that 2 DCs would log the same 5 logon 
failures at exactly the same times. What do you think?

Thanks,

Mark Creamer 
Systems Engineer 
Cintas Corporation 
http://www.cintas.com 
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