Also if the client is 2k or XP check for stored network passwords.

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From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 3:56 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] account lockout troubleshooting


Checked for an AT job running under the old creds? Seen that often.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Creamer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 12:30 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] account lockout troubleshooting


Yep, one is the PDCE. That would explain the same event at the same time on
2 DCs. But here's the strange thing. The users log on successfully. They
work with no problem for a while with apps running like Outlook (to Exchange
2000), IE, open Office files on a file server, etc. Suddenly they can't work
anymore - again, just as if someone else was locking out the account. But
the events are coming from the user's own PC only.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Coleman, Hunter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 3:17 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] account lockout troubleshooting

Is one of the DCs your PDC emulator? Normally, if a user attempts to
authenticate to a DC with an incorrect password (error code 3221225578),
that DC will redirect the authentication to the PDC emulator for an
"authoratative" response. This covers the case where a user's password has
changed but not fully replicated to all DCs. The PDC emulator would know
about the change, so checking there would validate the login attempt or
reject it if appropriate.

Hunter




From: Creamer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 12:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] account lockout troubleshooting
Hi folks,
I have been trying to troubleshoot some lockout events. In every case, the
event originates on the user's own workstation (not some other user). There
are no associated file object failures on the primary file server. It seems
like it is application-based, but I can't nail it down. I've been using
Microsoft's AL tools, including EventCombMT, but I can't use the
acctinfo.dll because the clients are Win9x. 

Today I noticed for the first time that on 2 DCs, the exact same 5 login
failures occurred (one example follows):

681,AUDIT FAILURE,Security,Tue Oct 07 13:13:38 2003,NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM,The
logon to account: MYUSER    by: MICROSOFT_AUTHENTICATION_PACKAGE_V1_0
from workstation: \\HIS_PC    failed. The error code was: 3221225578    

I was concerned that I didn't think it is normal that 2 DCs would log the
same 5 logon failures at exactly the same times. What do you think?

Thanks,

Mark Creamer 
Systems Engineer 
Cintas Corporation 
http://www.cintas.com 
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