Why don't you image your servers and only your workstations?


On Jan 14, 2004, at 11:40 AM, Mark Nold wrote:


Don't know about Drive Image. Didn't see it on Symantec's site.

We have/use the corp edition of Ghost.  And yes it does have its
drawback, but it works for us overall.  We are a small shop of 150
employees; 130 of whom are all located in one office.

As another poster already pointed out, I DON'T image my servers.  I
build those from scratch....but I also only have 5 total servers.  I do
however image all my desktops and laptops and then use GhostWalker to
re-sid the machine.

Ghost Personal (now Ghost 2003) only lets you drop your image from disk
to disk or some such and does not offer some of the "advanced" cloning
items (re-sid, etc).  But you don't need nor want to re-sid you image.
So I would think that ghost 2003 would work.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jake Connor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 11:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Backups

No they are too cheap to buy a few hard drives and a raid card :-\

I'll look into Ghost and pcInspector. Do you know if Drive Image by
Symantec will work on Win2k server or just workstations?



On Jan 14, 2004, at 11:09 AM, Mark Nold wrote:

They would spring for Ghost or pcInspector or the like, but not 80
bucks
for a 120G IDE drive that you could slap in there to mirror?

Do you have any "dead" pc's lying around that you can grab the IDE
drive
from?  Not the best I know, but seems like it would be better than
re-imaging your drive after every change you made in AD to keep your
"backup" fresh.

My 2cents anyway....

-----Original Message-----
From: Jake Connor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 11:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Backups

Because it's a small company and I have recommended it a hundred times
but in a nutshell, they are too cheap even though we have experienced
a
server crash which took about almost a week to restore everything
(which costs more for paying me) and they don't realize a RAID will
solve about almost everything and cheaper.


On Jan 14, 2004, at 10:25 AM, Coleman, Hunter wrote:


If you're concerned about the hard drive failing, why not just set up
a
RAID1 (mirror) configuration? Cost would be low, and you won't have
to

worry
about creating disk images and swapping hard drives around.

Hunter

-----Original Message-----
From: Jake Connor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 11:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Backups

First of all, thank you for the information :-)

I would like to make a complete hard drive backup onto the firewire
drive
(like a complete image) so that if the one on my system crashed then
I

can
just get the hard drive on the fire wire cable and put it into the
IDE
ribbons.

I probably should have mentioned that what I am using is just a fire
wire
cable that lets you connect any type of IDE drive to it.

So with pcinspector, would it be able to make a complete copy of the
hard
drive (with all the partitions, bootup stuff, etc) to another hard
drive and
have that hard drive be exactly the same as the hard drive in the
system so
in the event of a crash I can just swap the hard drive, start up the
system,
and everything is back to normal with all my Active Directory users,
etc?

Thanks once again in advanced.

Jake



On Jan 14, 2004, at 4:25 AM, GRILLENMEIER,GUIDO (HP-Germany,ex1)
wrote:

using a FW drive, you may run into issues with available drivers to
allow you to copy the data without first re-installing an OS on the
box.
There
are some cool free-utilities (such as a disk-cloner) that you may
want
to look at - but I have no idea if they support drives connected via
FW:
http://www.pcinspector.de/file_recovery/uk/welcome.htm

so in worst case, you'd have to restore the OS onto the new
harddrive
(default install - incl. the FW driver, if this is not in the
default)
and then restore your backup afterwards onto this new drive.

Otherwise you may preferr using a backup on tape afterall, for which
you can get routines to completely restore a server from bare-metal
fully automated.

/Guido

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jake Connor
Sent: Mittwoch, 14. Januar 2004 00:04
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Backups

I have a schedule backup that just copies everything on my hard
drive
to a drive on my firewire drive.

If my active hard drive crashes, how do I restore it with the data
on
my firewire drive so I can just boot up the new hard drive and it
will
have all the active directory users and all that stuff?

Thanks

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