If the USBD drive is just a typical harddrive inside of a USB enclosure
then your rish of drive failure is about the same as the risk of loosing
a harddrive. The increase in likelyhood is that typical harddrives are
not meant to be transported around and that may increase the failure
rate if the drives have not been designed for travel. You are also
giving yourself a single point of failure because if you loose a drive
and it is just a single drive (no RAID) then you have lost all the data
on that drive. 

The same holds true to some extent for a tape: if the tape gets damaged
then you lost the data on the tape. Where tape is better in this regard
is that you have probably got multiple tapes with that data on it if you
have architected your backup strategy properly and may even still have
that data on the disk-based backup as well. Since you will be keeping
weekly and monthly backups at a minimum you have given yourself a bit of
redundancy in the event that one of your tapes is lost/damaged.

Phil 

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Thank you for your suggestions. What about the USB drives? Am I right to
be concerned about their reliability. Would these concerns be mitigated
by using an offsiting service such as Iron Mountain (which is also being
considered)? I forgot to mention that we are using Backup Exec 9.

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Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 12:45 PM
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This is becoming a pretty common scenario for companies who have a
shrinking backup window but still require the same or higher level of
uptime. Backing up to disk then running your tape backup on that disk
based backup is a great way to keep your backup window small and still
provide offsite storage of backup media and quicker restores from your
disk based backup.

When you architect the backup environment I would try and provide for a
backup network that is separate from your production LAN so that when
you are running those tape backups during the day you don't impact the
production network with that traffic. A SAN would also limit the network
traffic and unless your environment is very large would probably negate
the need for the backup network.

I think you are referring to LTO when you say lso. 

Phil

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Daniel [EPM/SRM]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 12:29 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Backup Strategy

I am kinda in the same boat as you.
 
I have talked to my management and they seem please with the
recommendations that I have shown them.
 
Now what I have: I have two DLT-IV Tape Libraries that are backing up a
combined total of 200Gb a night. I am looking at the Compaq Itanium Disk
Array with LSO Tape Backup. I am using Backup Exec 9.1 and will utilize
their Disk-to-Disk Backup at night, and then during the day, backup to
LSO Tape so I can monitor it. Also, the disk array will allow me to move
the data off some of our servers for disaster recovery.

The money that you invest in you scenario, you can purchase a good tape
library, disk array. IMHO.
 
Daniel E. Rodriguez
Information Technology
Emerson Process Management
Fisher Controls Division
Sherman, Texas
(903)868-3357
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Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 10:52 AM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] Backup Strategy



        I am sorry if this is off-topic, but I greatly respect the
opinions/suggestions that come from this list.
        I am working on a backup strategy for my company. We have just
over 300GB of data to back up. I have been asked to estimate storage
capacity/cost required to keep data for 1 month and 3 months, so this
means that we will need between 1 and 3 TB of storage. The current
backups are stored on a SCSI array and the plan is to use USB drives for
offsiting our data. This means that we will need 4-12 300GB USB drives
to store our offsite data.
         
        I personally do not like this solution and am in favor of a
disk/tape solution; using a disk array for onsite backups and using tape
for offsite backups. The company prefers disk-based backup because of
its speed. However, I think that disks are less reliable than tape and
that using USB drives is not an enterprise-class solution (I have also
heard that those 300GB USB drives are not too reliable). Not to mention
the fact that these drives are bulky and our server room is already
pretty cramped.
         
        Does anyone have any suggestions? Are my concerns valid? Is my
suggestion of disk/tape the best solution?
        _________________________
         
        Daniel DeStefano
        PC Support Specialist
         
        IAG Research
        345 Park Avenue South, 12th Floor
        New York, NY 10010
        T. 212.871.5262
        F. 212.871.5300
         
        www.iagr.net <http://www.iagr.net/> 
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