Conflicting information:
(http://www.microsoft.com/technet/itsolutions/cits/interopmigration/unix/use
cdirw/06wsdsu.mspx)

To sum it up, SNTP and NTP are supposed to be interchangeable and
compatible.  Reality is, some verbs/commands aren't.  

When setting up a time server from a non-Microsoft client, you need to check
to see what the error actually is.  That'll help you to narrow down what the
cause is and how to adjust your client/server to make it work.  Time sync is
highly critical in a Kerberos environment, and making it work with multiple
vendors would infer that a 2003 DC should speak both NTP and SNTP.  Event
logs are helpful here. ;)

I've had a heck of a time with the time service changes in the past.
There're several options you can use if it doesn't work as a client although
those are some rare occasions supposedly.  As a server, you'll have to
figure out what's going on first. 

Maybe a network trace would be helpful as well?


Configuring Time Services
Kerberos 5 authentication is dependent upon the synchronization of the
internal clocks within the Kerberos domain. Before proceeding with building
a security solution using Kerberos, it is necessary to set up a time service
to ensure this required accuracy.

Windows Server 2003 time services are based upon the Simple Network Time
Protocol (SNTP); this is a simplified version of the UNIX Network Time
Protocol (NTP). The packet formats of both protocols are identical, and the
servers and clients for each can be used interchangeably.

More information about the time service protocols can be found in the RFCs
for each protocol. These are as follows:

* RFC 2030: "Simple Network Time Protocol (SNTP) Version 4 for IPv4, IPv6,
and OSI"
 
* RFC 1305: "Network Time Protocol (Version 3) Specification,
Implementation, and Analysis"
 

Version 4 of NTP is currently in development and has yet to be released as a
RFC.

More information on the specifics of implementing time services in the
Active Directory environment can be found in The Windows Time Service
(Brandolini and Green) at
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/howitworks/security/wintimeser
v.asp.

The following sections address the most common configuration scenarios for
setting up time servers and clients in a heterogeneous environment.
 

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Uncertain as to the OS in question here but Windows 2003 supports both NTP
and SNTP -
 
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/guidance/secmod118.mspx
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Dean Wells
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Does your switch use/support SNTP (Simple NTP)? That is what Windows DCs
support, not NTP. 
 
  joe

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To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
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Our forest root server acts as the time server for AD domain member machines
(I think that happens by default.) Do I have to take any additional steps to
allow that same server to be the NTP server for a non-Windows device? The
device is a phone switch on our network, and it doesn't seem to recognize
that server as being a valid NTP server. Thanks!

Mark Creamer


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