And scream "YOU'RE FIRED!" in unison at the first buffer overflow??? I wanna go to that bar!
<mc> -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 3:58 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] The missing fields I would watch that. Call it something like "the making of the mail system" and it shows the Exchange Dev guys working on the product and learning along the way. For exciting commercial scenes they could show someone typing a poor AD query or putting in an unchecked buffer copy.... You could have big parties in bars where the geeks could look on and say things like, can you believe they wrote that routine that way!?!?! joe -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fugleberg, David A Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 1:49 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] The missing fields I guess watching programmers code would be no more boring than any of the other reality shows...how about "Fear Factoring", or "the Amazing Race Condition" ? Dave -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil Kirkpatrick Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 12:29 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] The missing fields Programming as taught by Catholic nuns! Father Djykstra and Sister Grace (Murray Hopper)! What a great concept. It ould be a sitcom. Or even beter a "reality" show (that way you don't have to pay those expensive script writers). -gil -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Perdue David J Contr InDyne/Enterprise IT Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 11:16 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] The missing fields Was that before or after they smacked your knuckles with a wooden ruler? ;) If more places would teach coding like that, there'd be a lot more, better code going around. Dave //SIGNED// ------------------------------------------------ David J. Perdue Network Security Engineer, InDyne Inc Comm: (805) 606-4597 DSN: 276-4597 ------------------------------------------------ -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 10:09 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] The missing fields Robbie also says you should cut me a government check for $3.2 billion and I should email you a copy of adfind and admod. You can list them as a hammer and a screwdriver or a WoMD detector or something. If I had that kind of money to play with can you imagine the joeware that would be available? OMG! I would have to hire more coders. I would treat it like school, or at least the school I went through. If you write something bad you sit in a classroom with everyone watching the screen and the teacher says, and this is an example of what Mr. Richards thinks is good code as he puts in 5000 characters into a buffer according to the specs needed to be 256 characters and it slowly self-destructs the machine.... Mr. Richards, when I say in the spec the buffer should be 256 bytes, that doesn't mean make the buffer 256 bytes and leave it at that. I expect you to actually make sure no one puts more than 256 bytes in it! Actually, I wish more college professors had taught that way. We also had fun times around integer overflows and other fun and interesting coding flaws like why M and m really aren't the same even though we don't pronounce them differently, etc. joe -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick, Todd (NIH/CC/DNA) Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 12:18 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] The missing fields "Buy-guy" is Robbie Allen's label for me. No, no kick back (Although they are a Maryland company), just think it is a really effective tool for bulk administration. I tend to be scripting / LDIF challenged early in the AM, and late at night (Who am I kidding, I am just scripting challenged). I have been able to automate so much work these past two weeks using this tool, so I offer it as a possible solution. Toddler -----Original Message----- From: joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 12:01 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] The missing fields A buy guy?? I would be happy to sell you a copy of adfind and admod if that is the only thing holding you back. How much you want to spend on them? In the meanwhile, you getting a kickback from Javelina? That has got to be the 4 post or so in a week where you have dropped that name. :) joe -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick, Todd (NIH/CC/DNA) Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 11:23 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] The missing fields For a cost conscious and hands on types, Joe's tools and Robbie Allen's scripts are the best value. I am a "Buy-Guy" though, and for bulk administration, and delegation of bulk administration to those that are not that AD Savvy, I like AD Toolkit http://www.javelinasoftware.com AD Toolkit offers the ability to generate quick reports, and also does a good job of identifying every field that you can populate and query on. A lot of times, you will have to find documentation on the fields on MSDN to know which ones to query on. Reports can be converted to spreadsheets or emailed to you, and there is a scheduling option as well. Todd -----Original Message----- From: joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 10:35 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] The missing fields You aren't missing anything. Extending ADUC to display new fields it doesn't already display is generally not trivial. Unless you are a programmer, it is often considered out of reach. The most quick and dirty solution is to write a script to do the update. After that would be using a web interface of some sort or something like that. If you are a programmer, you can fairly quickly throw together a form display what you want displayed the way you want it displayed and even include business logic in what gets set and how which can be specific to your company, division, group, team, etc... Just don't forget that those business rules are in your client and not in the server so don't expect them to always be correct as someone could use another method to update the fields. joe -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Clark Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 10:28 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] The missing fields There are a number of useful fields in AD Room number, License Plate etc that are not presented in ADUC, the recommendation is to fill them in programmatically. I have been asked to delegate the power to edit these fields to a phone book operator, who really wants a simply interface like users and computers. The search function can be harnessed with a QDS file query and rundll32 C:\WINDOWS\system32\dsquery.dll,OpenSavedDsQuery %1 which allows the user to edit given the right privs most of the data but some of it e.g. room number is still beyond my reach. Its such a simple thing that I know I'm missing something obvious but some help would be appreciated. What approaches are other people using if any or do we not use these "hidden" unless its with dsmod? 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