I recommend your book a lot as well, in fact there is at least one list
member that has been trying to buy the darn thing based on my recommendation
but can't find it anywhere!!!! I have pointed at a couple of resources, it
was actually ordered from one resource (ebay) and the member got a note back
saying, oh sorry, I haven't had that in stock for over a year.... So get
with it Gil! Reprints! And don't forget about getting me royalties for
people I send that way. ;oP

Anyway, for this person, I am not sure throwing them into AD programming
book is the best course at least initially. :o)  It is like someone who
wants to use kerberos and you point them at the MIT dist. 

  joe


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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory and LDAP

Aww, man... How come my book isn't up there?

-gil 

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Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 10:11 AM
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Hey now... Don't forget about Alistair. He did that first edition himself
and did it well. :)

The Cat Book rocks. Actually I should get royalties for that one too, I have
made a bunch of people buy it and have bought and given away multiple copies
myself. I still have my first copy though it is quite dog-eared and I put
laminating plastic on the covers so they wouldn't get too torn up. 

Here is the actual AD Org Books link -
http://www.activedir.org/Books.aspx ,
actually it would be kind of cool if we could rate them. How about it Tony?
Have a couple of fields for each, number of people who have the book, number
of people who recommend it, number of people who don't recommend it. 

I am surprised AD Developers Reference Library by Iseminger is on the list.
That is a great book but wouldn't expect a lot of the list users to have
read it. I recall reading it back in like 2001 or so and getting a bit
scared at what a really pissed off AD programmer could pull off. 


  joe
 

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Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 11:58 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory and LDAP

Personally?  I like to think of AD as a GUI to Microsoft's implementation of
LDAP.  That simplifies a lot of things for me.  However, there is more to it
than that and the books you ordered should help in clarifying that.  

You don't need to know LDAP to make AD work, but it helps.  It's a great
help to me to understand the differences between Microsoft's AD and Sun's
implementation of LDAP or IBM's implementation or any of the others for the
basics.  

When you start getting into managing the directory and the objects in the
directory, Microsoft really differentiates itself with GPO's and the
multi-master replication and the tools to support the infrastructure.  

As you're looking at this, remember that name resolution is one of the most
important things you can deal with when making AD a solid enterprise app. 

The book from O'Reilly sounds like Robbie's book.  I haven't read it, but
have heard good things about it (what can I say Robbie, I don't have a
budget for it :)  If it's not Robbie's book for AD, then it would be a good
idea to grab that one as well.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0596004664/103-8355416-0173405

Sakari Kouti also has written a good book, called, "Inside Active Directory"
that would be worth picking up. http://www.kouti.com/

You should be able to find some other information about books at
http://www.activedir.org 


Al
 

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Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 11:41 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Active Directory and LDAP

I don't understand LDAP and Active Directory as much as I should.
So, I've ordered 2 LDAP books (O'Reilly and another) to learn.
I'm curious as to how much LDAP and Active Directory have in common. Is AD
just a GUI for LDAP?
Perhaps there is a book everyone here recommends or will my LDAP books
hopefully cover enough so I could be able to feel my way around Active
Directory good enough?

Doing a search with the word 'book' gives a ton of irrelvent searches in the
archives. 
I saw one book but it's out of print.

Kenny Mann
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