RE: :: Horribly OT :: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory and LDAP

[Rich Milburn]

Active Directory – The Sorcerer’s Guide OR AD: Help! I broke it, and I can’t go home!   Rich   -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 5:07 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: :: Horribly OT :: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory and LDAP   LOL.   I have been gathering all of the various ideas together over the years for applications into one place. I am sort of gathering ideas and posts I have written too in hopes I can slap that stuff together and come up with some sort of book.   I don't expect writing a techy book is the way to riches and fame though. I doubt I will get the penetration in the market of say a Da Vinci Code or a Harry Potter though maybe if I tried to call it Harry Potter and the miracle of Active Directory....      joe     -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 9:18 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: :: Horribly OT :: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory and LDAP   1,000,000.00 - 3.00 = the first step taken and a down payment on a Starbuck's coffee :)   -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Milburn Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 9:07 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory and LDAP   Joe -   Write. A. Book.   Your own.   I'll buy it, if no one else will :p   Rich   ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- Rich Milburn MCSE, Microsoft MVP - Directory Services Sr Network Analyst, Field Platform Development Applebee's International, Inc. 4551 W. 107th St Overland Park, KS 66207 913-967-2819 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- "I am always doing that which I can not do, in order that I may learn how to do it." - Pablo Picasso -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 9:46 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory and LDAP   What can I say... I didn't win the Lotto. :)   It seems more and more like I am going to have to actually earn my first million.      joe   -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Kingslan Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 10:14 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory and LDAP   " The Cat Book rocks. Actually I should get royalties for that one too, I have made a bunch of people buy it...."     Here we go again....   -rtk   P.S  :p     -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 11:11 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory and LDAP   Hey now... Don't forget about Alistair. He did that first edition himself and did it well. :)   The Cat Book rocks. Actually I should get royalties for that one too, I have made a bunch of people buy it and have bought and given away multiple copies myself. I still have my first copy though it is quite dog-eared and I put laminating plastic on the covers so they wouldn't get too torn up.   Here is the actual AD Org Books link - http://www.activedir.org/Books.aspx , actually it would be kind of cool if we could rate them. How about it Tony? Have a couple of fields for each, number of people who have the book, number of people who recommend it, number of people who don't recommend it.   I am surprised AD Developers Reference Library by Iseminger is on the list. That is a great book but wouldn't expect a lot of the list users to have read it. I recall reading it back in like 2001 or so and getting a bit scared at what a really pissed off AD programmer could pull off.       joe     -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 11:58 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory and LDAP   Personally?  I like to think of AD as a GUI to Microsoft's implementation of LDAP.  That simplifies a lot of things for me.  However, there is more to it than that and the books you ordered should help in clarifying that.    You don't need to know LDAP to make AD work, but it helps.  It's a great help to me to understand the differences between Microsoft's AD and Sun's implementation of LDAP or IBM's implementation or any of the others for the basics.    When you start getting into managing the directory and the objects in the directory, Microsoft really differentiates itself with GPO's and the multi-master replication and the tools to support the infrastructure.    As you're looking at this, remember that name resolution is one of the most important things you can deal with when making AD a solid enterprise app.   The book from O'Reilly sounds like Robbie's book.  I haven't read it, but have heard good things about it (what can I say Robbie, I don't have a budget for it :)  If it's not Robbie's book for AD, then it would be a good idea to grab that one as well. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0596004664/103-8355416-0173405   Sakari Kouti also has written a good book, called, "Inside Active Directory" that would be worth picking up. http://www.kouti.com/   You should be able to find some other information about books at http://www.activedir.org     Al     -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenny Mann Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 11:41 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Active Directory and LDAP   I don't understand LDAP and Active Directory as much as I should. So, I've ordered 2 LDAP books (O'Reilly and another) to learn. I'm curious as to how much LDAP and Active Directory have in common. Is AD just a GUI for LDAP? Perhaps there is a book everyone here recommends or will my LDAP books hopefully cover enough so I could be able to feel my way around Active Directory good enough?   Doing a search with the word 'book' gives a ton of irrelvent searches in the archives. I saw one book but it's out of print.   Kenny Mann List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ    : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ    : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/   List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ    : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/     List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ    : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/   List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ    : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/   -------APPLEBEE'S INTERNATIONAL, INC. 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