>without all of that hacking experience. Makes me wonder if kids in high >school today that have better greater access to far better systems really >dig into the guts much to make things better. Instead of seeing better >systems down the road maybe we will see crappier systems as people who >didn't grow up severely limited by what their systems could do and hacking >them to make them better start moving into the positions where they are >supposed to produce the next best thing...
/me thinks I know a few things about how AD and Exchange work plus my .Net fun, but I don't go hacking that hardcore with stuff. I do keep reflector running so I can see how MS did stuff in the .net framework though. I hear there's a veritable antique shop in the basement, though I've never been down there, we might have some of that stuff. My understanding is that they don't throw jack out around the office, and the odds and ends hidden around the datacenter seem to solidify this rumor. --brian -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:26 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Passwords from SQL Oh I completely agree, hence the sentence "Of course free is a question begging term" . I expect the password piece is more a function of the application versus the DB anyway. If the application was pointed at SQL Server as written, it would probably do the same thing and set up a password table and compare users logging in to that versus using any integration in the DB product. Additionally, most university and high schools folks I have talked to through the years and certainly it was the case when I was in those places have more time than money. In high school I was the sysadmin for a PDP-11/84 running RSTS/E with 2 RK06 washing machine sized 40MB disk drives and a simple TU-80 for backups. If it didn't come for free from DEC or wasn't included in the service contract with DEC, it didn't matter how much something cost, it was entirely out of our own personal pocket so we spent far more time than money getting things working the way we wanted which including writing system monitors, device drivers, spooler and batch compiler systems, and tons of other systems tools as well as the odd ball VT-220 based video game (pacman, snakes, etc) and a steller Macro Assembler based reverse polish notation graphical calculator (also for the VT-220). Quite honestly, looking back I wouldn't have it any other way, I learned a ton about the internals of systems software by messing with Disk subsystems and writing batch systems. I would absolutely not be the person I am today without all of that hacking experience. Makes me wonder if kids in high school today that have better greater access to far better systems really dig into the guts much to make things better. Instead of seeing better systems down the road maybe we will see crappier systems as people who didn't grow up severely limited by what their systems could do and hacking them to make them better start moving into the positions where they are supposed to produce the next best thing... joe -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Pochedley Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 2:06 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Passwords from SQL Free to acquire, yes... However, if you spend enough time in implementing, creating, and supporting some functionality that you would otherwise gain in the paid solution (password syncing?), have you really "saved" any money? It's not a knock against "free" software... I use MySQL here and have used it for other personal applications as well... Sometimes "free" isn't always the best solution... Of course there's always the oft repeated quotes "Acquisition costs are only a fraction of TCO...." Joe Pochedley A computer terminal is not some clunky old television with a typewriter in front of it. It is an interface where the mind and body can connect with the universe and move bits of it about. -Douglas Adams -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:44 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Passwords from SQL When you have next to nothing for a budget, next to nothing is a lot when you can get it for free. :o) Of course free is a question begging term but for any uses I have used MySQL for it has performed admirably. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Medeiros, Jose Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:28 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Passwords from SQL I am not sure why, Microsoft sells their products to education institutions for next to nothing. Jose -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Freddie Coleman III Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:22 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Passwords from SQL He's probably using MY SQL instead of MS SQL for monetary reasons. Money is always an issue in education fred > Hi Jacob, > > I have a better ID. If you use Microsoft SQL instead of MY SQL then > you'll have the option of using Integrated Authentication and use the > usernames and passwords that your user's log into AD with. > > Jose > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jacob Stabl > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 8:56 AM > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: [ActiveDir] Passwords from SQL > > > > I am running a MySQL server that holds data for a grading program here > in the district. Well teachers have the ability to change passwords > through that software and I was curious if AD could import passwords > for people on a scheduled increment from that SQL database. Can > active directory connect to a SQL database to pull other information > or possibly import users directly from that database?? > > -- > Jacob Stabl > Network Engineer > Plain Local School District > <http://www.plainlocal.org> http://www.plainlocal.org > Office: 330.492.3500 > Cell : 330.704.1278 > IP Phone: 4466 List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
