This as always been the case IIRC. The adminpack.msi set is if you want
to install the admin tools on a workstation such XP or W2K Prof to allow
you do admin. One of things that happens during a dcpromo process is the
"enabling" and registering of all admin tools in the user interface
rather than you having to open up the mmc console and manually add the
snapins.

Regards
Peter Johnson

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Parris
Sent: 19 August 2005 15:18
To: ActiveDir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: AD MMC Snap ins

I have checked at work today, systems that have never seen the admin
pak, have the mmc snapins installed. Vanilla 2003 this is the case too.
They are Just not visable under admin tools, but are available as mmc
snapins, even without the adminpak installed.

Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: "Rick Kingslan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 07:26:21 
To:<ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir]  OT: AD MMC Snap ins

If the AdminPak has never been installed on a given system, the snap-ins
that are the Administrative Tools  say, ADUC, should not be available.
 
 
 
Are you saying that you have the snap-ins on a Win2k3 system with SP1
that you are certain the AdminPak was not installed on?  Im unclear as
to exactly what youre asking.  
 
 
 
And, yes  I do view it as some degree of a Security Risk.  As to how
high of a risk, that all depends on factors in your environment.
 
 
 
Rick
 
 
 
 
 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Parris
 Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 2:15 AM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: AD MMC Snap ins
 
 
 
Dear All,
 
 
 
On a Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 member server that has not had
the Adminpak.msi installed, so no AD tools appear in the Administrative
tools on the Start Menu or in the control panel. If a new MMC is run
from the command line and Add\Remove snap-in is selected should the AD
Admin tools listed and registered (such as DSA.MSC)?
 
 
 
I have had this on a test machine tonight and for me its potentially a
security issue.
 
 
 
Many thanks 
 
 
 
Mark
 
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