Hi joe, The DC had been up for about 45 days. Pushing the power button is the last resort. (IMHO, Windows OSs have become remarkably well designed to recover from a last ditch power reset.) I prefer doing patches/rebooting on the weekends when the majority of my users are not impacted and if there are any issues, I have the rest of the weekend to get them corrected. It does make it a little tougher contacting the right people if there are any issues that go beyond my immediate expertise or authority. But generally the weekends work well. We cover ourselves pretty well with redendant servers. And terminal services functionality makes the effort much easier by working from home, beer in hand, in my underwear! LOL! Mike Thommes
________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of joe Sent: Sun 10/16/2005 9:43 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] rebooting a patched, but stubborn DC How long had the DC been up? I know this is stupid but I have seen multiple cases where a DC that is up for months at a time will be cranky when you go to reboot it. You can try to do something to take the legs out from under the DC like somehow killing LSASS or if you have some form of remote hardware access you can pop the reset button but I really don't recommend those ideas unless you are looking for DB corruption. However, I understand that some sites can not randomly have a DC rebooting on them in the middle of the day. It may be better to blow up the DC before start of business day than allow it to just reboot at some point. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 7:56 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] rebooting a patched, but stubborn DC Hi Susan, Thanks for the response. No UPS issues. Checked the services remotely and didn't find anything unusual. The DC did finally reboot on its own shortly after I sent out my first message - about 2 hours after the original patching and message saying it wanted to reboot and I clicked OK. The event logs showed nothing of any consequence, just a big (2 hour) gap in the system event log entries (between the entry saying it initiated shutdown and the entry saying the system was coming back up). The security log showed no gaps at all. Am I the only one that sees this kind of behavior on W2K3/SP1 servers? I normally don't use the "/console" switch when I TS in (eg, mstsc.exe /console). I wonder if that could speed the process up. Mike Thommes ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Sat 10/15/2005 3:53 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] rebooting a patched, but stubborn DC APC UPS's and you don't have the latest ver on there? HP with a UPS? Can you get into services and see if something is 'stopping'? Got any ILO ability there [or suitable other remote techniques]? Thommes, Michael M. wrote: >So I have remotely (TS connection) applied the latest Windows patches >to one of my DCs. Patches went on fine. Said it needed to reboot. I >clicked "Restart". And two hours later, it still has not rebooted, but >it did terminate the TS session. I have tried to "kick it" via a >"shutdown /f /r" command from another DC. Still no luck. Issue same >command remotely with the big Kahuna account, and it says a shutdown is >in progress. It appears to still be serving up clients, e.g., no >discernable ill effects. I have seen this periodically in the past >with other servers. Anyone have any comments/thoughts are this >irritating, weekend <sigh> activity? TIA! > >Mike Thommes >List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx >List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx >List archive: >http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > > > -- Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? http://www.threatcode.com List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/