Of course, it makes supporting non-windows clients a different challenge :)

Paul, what method are you using to join the workstation to the domain?
It sounds like the domains are being enumerated at initial logon as
if it has no list when it joins. Could be something in the process or
something else, but figured I'd ask.

al

On 5/5/06, Paul Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On 5/5/06, joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I am not sure if you can set a domain by default for the initial logon. If
you could, I would expect it to be to some of the reg entries maintained in
the HKLM\software\microsoft\windows nt\currentversion\winlogon portion of
the registry.

That is exactly the key we have found what little information we have.  No
matter what you set for defaultdomainname or altdefaultdomainname it's the
same thing.

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> You could step around that by telling people to use UPNs for logon instead
of SAM Names. That would mean you would use something like
[EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of something\PGlenn. That is the direction
the auth is going so if you are starting fresh now, might as well start that
way. Then the domain dropdown is a moot point. It also means you can dork
with the domain's almost to your heart's content and never have to worry
about telling the users their new domain, it will just work because the UPN
does not have to match the Domain structure.

We would like, if possible, to stay away from this because of the way we
have the students logging on now.  Currently they don't have to use any
context for their Netware logins.  A far cry from the days they had to put
in .pglenn.uxx.student.usr.uky  The direction our university is leaning is
to do everything via LDAP lookups.  We are doing this because we have 2
major AD domains and on major eDirectory.  Account information is handles by
Novell's Identity Manager.

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> I am curious about the direction to move as you state it as "the Novell
business model", what specifically is pushing this change? With Novell
embracing Open Source I would expect schools and the like to be more, not
less, interested in it. Also I am curious why not a move to say BSD or
Linux. If anywhere that stuff works well en masse it is in school
environments because they are so closed and geographically small.
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Going open source is great for many things.  However, after many years or
struggling with different vendors and their lack of support for anything
that is not Windows, open source wasn't that appealing.  Our vendors include
made dicipline specific software who don't want to support anything else and
hardware vendors that support others things when they get around to it - and
example of the latter being the horrible tech support from Tivoli after
loosing about 2 terabytes of data (took them 6 months to get it resolved).
Using Netware OES or eDirectory on SUsE were other options I had.  After
wieghing several things - most importantly my learning curve for such a move
to either one given the time table - I chose AD.  This will allow us to put
out images without a non-native client.  This also pleases my VP, who really
wants me to move toward AD.


Paul

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