LOL. I really actually like LDAP and Win32 API type coding. I do understand though the draw for some folks for .NET. Just not for me, especially as I play more and more in the FreeBSD space. ;)
ASP.NET I expect will be the first thing I go into when/if I make a step in that direction. Something that is completely server side controlled. I was into MONAD when it was first announced and very early in the design/development/beta but they kept cutting back what they initially said they were going to do with it and I ended up losing interest. I have fear in how "fat" things are going to get with it. Certainly I am not thrilled with the stuff being done in Exchange with it that I have seen/heard about. For example, if I want a list of mailbox sizes of all mailboxes in an org you need to pull back to the client running the script EVERYTHING about EVERY mailbox. That may work in a small org but is not optimal in a large size distributed environment. When I pointed that out I was simply told that is the MONAD way... That isn't really encouraging for someone who normally works on environments greater than 100k seats. -- O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Kaplan Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 10:06 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Active Directory Cookbooks... I hope you aren't frustrated by the book being written in C# rather than VB.NET. That rule was imposed by my coauthor and the publisher. All of the code samples are re-written in VB.NET and posted on the website, so hopefully that works for you. For the most part, the actual VB and C# code aren't very different (sometimes you just put a ";" at the end of the line :)), so hopefully you'll be able to follow along with the gist of the C# in the book. Someday I'd like to seriously tackle the .NET/scripting angle of DS programming by tackling all this stuff from the PowerShell perspective. I think there's a huge audience for that in the future. It will be interesting to see how that works out as well, since the scripting world is usually covered by other people (Joe, Robbie, Laura, etc.), but most of them haven't done .NET yet. The theme of my talk at DEC was suggesting that all of the DS programmers will eventually end up in the .NET world, as that's where all of Microsoft's programming model investment is going. Joe Richards will almost certainly be the last to go (unless he discovers how cool PowerShell really is and becomes addicted). Joe K. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Kline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 8:03 AM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory Cookbooks... Please ignore this post: I just read Joe's other note about http://directoryprogramming.net/default.aspx Sorry! So much to read so little time... Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Richard Kline Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 9:00 AM To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory Cookbooks... Altering the subject a mite: I've not yet purchased these books and so am not completely familiar with the content... Does anyone have a recommendation for AD programming using .NET? VB is my personal poison of choice. VBS would probably suffice for my anticipated needs but I do wish to get more fully familiar with the .NET workings.... Thank you. Richard -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 11:02 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory Cookbooks... If you mean you purchased Active Directory Second Edition... Ebay it and just start reading the Third Edition, I made considerable changes through it and not just for new stuff. The security and schema chapters and most all of the scripts got massive work done to them to correct issues, etc. Now if you mean you bought the AD Cookbook Second Edition, I would actually recommend reading Active Directory Third Edition first, then reading the cookbook as it will make more sense. Alternately, don't read the cookbook and just treat it as a cookbook where when you need to do something, you look up the recipe. joe -- O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 11:26 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory Cookbooks... I have just purchased the 2nd one and will be on to the 3rd one as soon as I have finished that... Cheers, Matt Duguid Systems Engineer for Identity Services Department of Internal Affairs Phone: +64 4 4748028 (wellington) Mobile: +64 21 1713290 Fax: +64 4 4748894 Address: Level 4, 47 Boulcott Street, Wellington CBD E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.dia.govt.nz/ |---------+----------------------------------> | | | | | | | | | | | "joe" | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | | Sent by: | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | tivedir.org | | | | | | | | | 15/09/2006 03:14 p.m. | | | Please respond to | | | ActiveDir | | | | |---------+----------------------------------> >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >---- -----------------------------------| | | | To: <ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> | | cc: | | Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory Cookbooks... | >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >---- -----------------------------------| Actually I did the Active Directory Third Edition. The Active Directory Cookbook is in the Second Edition now and that was done by Laura Hunter. My book you can find in my signature, the Cookbook you can find at http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/059610202X/ref=pd_cp_b_title/002-499163 1-48 70433?ie=UTF8 -- O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 10:41 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory Cookbooks... hahaha no worries cheers for that i'll just swim around the fish bowl one more time... ;-) Matt Duguid Systems Engineer for Identity Services Department of Internal Affairs Phone: +64 4 4748028 (wellington) Mobile: +64 21 1713290 Fax: +64 4 4748894 Address: Level 4, 47 Boulcott Street, Wellington CBD E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.dia.govt.nz/ |---------+----------------------------------> | | | | | | | | | | | "David Adner" | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | | Sent by: | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | tivedir.org | | | | | | | | | 15/09/2006 02:21 p.m. | | | Please respond to | | | ActiveDir | | | | |---------+----------------------------------> >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >---- -----------------------------------| | | | To: <ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> | | cc: | | Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory Cookbooks... | >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >---- -----------------------------------| *points at joe's signature...* And in case that was too vague, try here. http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 9:13 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Active Directory Cookbooks... Hi there, I have already read and use the "Active Directory Cookbook for Windows 2003 and Windows 2000" and see there are 2nd and 3rd editions. Is there anywhere on the net which lists the contents of each so I can have a look before purchase? 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