""build a white box because anyone else uses crud parts" era."
All hardware sucks, all software sucks, all support sucks =)
That said, at least with the name brand boys you have something resembling support and they generally have tools that you can hobble your own support out of. Personally I wouldn't run any company larger than 50 or so employees off of whitebox computers because the time wasted on support is far more valuable then the marginal cost of the vendors markup.
Thanks,
Andrew Fidel
| "Susan Bradley, CPA
aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/2006 07:04 PM
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Right now in my space we're in "get a brand name" era..but it wasn't
that long ago we were in a "build a white box because anyone else uses
crud parts" era.
I think it depends on what serverland you live in :-)
Jef Kazimer wrote:
> Brian,
>
> Ouch! We don't know why he went with a Tyan system over an HP or
> Dell. With the current pricing of Dell servers, they are far below
> even the Tyan barebones server chassis.
>
> I used to work for a large international company, and certain
> international divisions were only approved to purchase from specific
> vendors (Dell,Compaq, HP were not one of them). So some areas had
> these servers with names I had not heard of before, but we had to
> support them anyway. He may be in the same situation, where he has
> the unfortunate responsibility of supporting such a hardware.
>
> Yet, I would agree with you, that when you are buying from the big
> guys, they have already resolved this problem, and offer the toolset
> to accomplish what he wants to do.
>
> I would NOT recommend trying to use any other flash tools, other than
> what the vendor provides. I am sure they would not work, but just in
> case, do not try it.
>
> Jef
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Desmond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>
> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 3:25 PM
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Update Server BIOS remotely.
>
> No, good luck with that. Buy name brand servers with real tools next
> time. You get what you paid for when you don't buy a nice shrink wrapped
> box with a bunch of people in the background who already thought of this
> problem.
>
> Thanks,
> Brian Desmond
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> c - 312.731.3132
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir-
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Manjeet Singh
>> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 4:15 PM
>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Update Server BIOS remotely.
>>
>> Tyan new BIOS Version has Fix for hyper threading issue that why we
>> need
>> to update it.
>>
>> Can Dell or Compaq utility works for Tyan Motherboard.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan
> Bradley,
>> CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
>> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 1:09 PM
>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Update Server BIOS remotely.
>>
>> I update bios's before service packs.. not sure I'm comfortable doing
>> it
>>
>> remotely though...
>>
>> Brian Desmond wrote:
>> >
>> > *So this is usually something I don't do unless I have a reason to.
>> > I've yet to see a reason to proactively flash firmware on servers.
>> > That said Compaq and Dell both have online flashing utilities that
>> you
>>
>> > can run silently. I hope you have a plan if something doesn't work
>> and
>>
>> > you're locked out even out of ILO/DRAC. *
>> >
>> > * *
>> >
>> > *Thanks,*
>> >
>> > *Brian Desmond*
>> >
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> > * *
>> >
>> > *c - 312.731.3132*
>> >
>> > * *
>> >
>> > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Manjeet
>> Singh
>> > *Sent:* Sunday, October 01, 2006 1:49 PM
>> > *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>> > *Subject:* [ActiveDir] Update Server BIOS remotely.
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > We have many servers spread across many location. I want to upgrade
>> > the motherboard BIOS remotely on all Server. I have well tested the
>> > BIOS locally.
>> >
>> > What tools people use for remote BIOS update?
>> >
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