Yeah, but you can just ignore it and it's not the default Users
or Computers containers. Still, is there a safe way to remove
those? Similarly there's a safe way to remove the Default-First-Site-Name
stuff too?

Mike

On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 20:28:42 -0800
"Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2005/07/27/59808.aspx
> http://www.sbslinks.com/images/wp5z50vd.gif
> 
> Joe?  Deji?  Got some forks?
> 
> Laura A. Robinson wrote:
> > Please tell me that you're making that up. Otherwise I'll have to stab
> > myself in the eye with a fork. "My Business"???? 
> >
> > Words fail me. :-)
> >
> > Laura
> >   
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> >> Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
> >> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 9:13 PM
> >> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> >> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] _msdcs not propagated in AXFR
> >>
> >> We install the Kitchen Sink service too don't forget....  ;-)
> >>
> >> (wait until we start talking about the My Business 
> >> OU...that's usually good for another freak out or two)
> >>
> >> Laura A. Robinson wrote:
> >>     
> >>> Small point- dcpromo creates those zones as mentioned in 
> >>>       
> >> the original 
> >>     
> >>> question  *if* you have not configured DNS beforehand, *if* 
> >>>       
> >> you tell 
> >>     
> >>> dcpromo to go ahead and do it for you, and *if* you're building the 
> >>> forest root domain. If you have configured DNS beforehand, how the 
> >>> zones get created (as stub zones, as subdomains, etc.) will 
> >>>       
> >> depend on 
> >>     
> >>> that preconfiguration. If you're not building the forest 
> >>>       
> >> root domain, 
> >>     
> >>> the subdomain already exists and dcpromo is just populating it.
> >>>
> >>> I bring this up only because there are many companies that have 
> >>> existing DNS infrastructures and it's important to know 
> >>>       
> >> that "default" 
> >>     
> >>> is not equivalent to "mandatory". It is not a requirement that the 
> >>> _msdcs zone be either a separate zone or a subdomain in an existing 
> >>> zone, whether it's a stub or a full zone, etc.
> >>>
> >>> Of course, since we're talking SBS, all of this goes out the window 
> >>> (no pun intended). SBS is its own freaky little animal.
> >>>
> >>> Laura
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans 
> >>>> Halbmayr
> >>>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 1:06 PM
> >>>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] _msdcs not propagated in AXFR
> >>>>
> >>>> Usually dcpromo creates all these zones. Windows creates 
> >>>>         
> >> these zones 
> >>     
> >>>> in a forest partition. If you have a linux DNS server just create 
> >>>> another slave zone of _msdcs.example.com.
> >>>> The gray one is only the delegation. 
> >>>>
> >>>> Hans
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>>> From: Michael B Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> >>>> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2006 5:39:26 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] _msdcs not propagated in AXFR
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Ok, so basically _msdcs is just a separate zone. Do Windows DNS 
> >>>> setups usually do this? I'm using SBS.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have a bind DNS server running on a linux machine with a 
> >>>>         
> >> slave zone 
> >>     
> >>>> for example.com. The AXFR doesn't have those records 
> >>>>         
> >> (aside from the 
> >>     
> >>>> NS record). So what you're saying is that I need to setup another 
> >>>> slave zone for the _msdcs subdomain?
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 03:02:22 -0800 (PST) Hans Halbmayr 
> >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>> Hi Mike,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the gray one is the delegation of the zone. The _msdcs ist
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>>> a subdomain of your forest root. Because it is needed all over the 
> >>>> forest it is delegated.
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>> Regards
> >>>>> Hans
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>>>> From: Michael B Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> >>>>> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2006 12:15:29 AM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] _msdcs not propagated in AXFR
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm not sure I understand. In DNS admin I see two zones. One for 
> >>>>> _msdcs.example.com with all the usual _msdcs records and one for 
> >>>>> example.com which incedentally has an NS record for 
> >>>>> _msdcs.example.com. The little folder thingy for this
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>>> _msdcs is grey
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>> which I guess signifies that it's some kind of link to the
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>>> other zone?
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>> So I understand why the _msdcs records other than the one 
> >>>>>           
> >> NS record 
> >>     
> >>>>> are not transferring but I don't understand why the
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>>> structure is split
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>> into two zones and if I can/should do something about it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mike
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 11:27:14 -0800
> >>>>> "Akomolafe, Deji" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>> Seen this? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/817470
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sincerely, 
> >>>>>>    _____                                
> >>>>>>   (, /  |  /)               /)     /)   
> >>>>>>     /---| (/_  ______   ___// _   //  _ 
> >>>>>>  ) /    |_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_
> >>>>>> (_/                             /)      
> >>>>>>                                (/       
> >>>>>> Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
> >>>>>> www.akomolafe.com - we know IT
> >>>>>> -5.75, -3.23
> >>>>>> Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>>> worried about
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>>> Yesterday? -anon
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> From: Michael B Allen
> >>>>>> Sent: Fri 12/1/2006 9:40 AM
> >>>>>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> >>>>>> Subject: [ActiveDir] _msdcs not propagated in AXFR
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Does anyone know why the _msdcs records are not returned
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>>> in an AXFR
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>>> DNS query? This means that slave zones will not have
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>>> those records
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>>> and that software querying for a domain controller may
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>>> not find one.
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>>> Mike
> >>>>>>
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