i want a $100 laptop. i will wrestle a starving child for one.

"Laptop batteries can be recharged using a rip cord, a crank, a pedal, a
car battery, or solar panels"

are they going on sale in the west?


On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:54:30 +0200, "Julian Oliver"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> ..on or around Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 05:10:11PM +1200, Douglas
> Bagnall said:
> > Julian Oliver wrote:
> >
> > > to summarise:
> > >
> > >   if you're using a CRT you shouldn't be.
> > >
> > >   LCD users can dress in white.
> >
> >
> > ah, but LCDs don't look the same.
> >
> > BTW, this 750 megawatt-hours/year is not actually very much at all.
> > If you convert it to megawatt hours per hour, which is to say,
> > megawatts:
> >
> > 750 / (365 * 24) = 0.0856
> >
> > you get 85 kW.  Heaters, kettles, and vacuum cleaners use in the
> > order of 2kW each.  Hot water cylinders and ovens use more.  So a
> > power cut in a tiny place like Otira or Ophir, where everyone is
> > sitting in front of their heaters drinking tea, will save more power
> > than blacking out google for the whole world.
>
> that may be true. i suppose what this points to is the need for a
> sense of scale where power consumption is concerned. i could certainly
> do with a big colourful graph pairing objects based on mean power
> consumption.
>
> moreso, perhaps it is far too easy to ignore the T.V in conversations
> about screens and power consumption: they are still far more
> ubiquitous and consume around 10w more power than a CRT on average
> (apparently).
>
> > There are other effects to consider too. In winter the 15 extra
> > watts from a white screen are not entirely wasted.  The power ends
> > up as heat, and you're warmer for it (huddle close to your monitor).
> >
>
> relatedly, i remember reading that one intended secondary function of
> the OLPC was as a lightsource in regions with poor electricity
> distribution.
>
> > Another perspective is that an ordinary car engine will generate
> > about 85kW when it is going fast.
> >
> > Nonetheless, before that, Julian also wrote:
> >
> > > i've argued for years that working in a terminal environment with
> > > white text on a black background gives me more battery life on my
> > > laptops. perhaps we'll see 'Carbon Offsetting' in the context of
> > > high-traffic sites in future..
> > >
> > > this principle could even be extended further to software design:
> > > bad software design can lead to unneccesary loads on the system
> > > (redundant clock-cycles, memory leakage, bloated file formats): an
> > > MS Word document is typically much larger than other document
> > > formats of similar features and so requires more hard-disk useage.
> > > this is multiplied when sent over a network: how many millions of
> > > watts would be gain a day if using the Open Document Format
> > > instead?
> > >
> > > similarly user interfaces with excessive eye-candy (animated
> > > toolbars, panels and windows) could be seen to be less
> > > environmentally friendly.
> >
> >
> > There is increasingly something in this.  In the last few months,
> > even weeks, a lot has been done to the Linux kernel and various
> > parts of the X desktop to save power.  For example, this page shows
> > a few patches giving a 25% power saving:
> >
> > http://www.linuxpowertop.org/results.php
> >
>
> hah, i didn't know this was actually going into the mainline kernel so
> soon. that is great news (even if just selfishly from a laptop user's
> perspective).
>
> > This works by doing nothing in longer stretches than before, so
> > the CPU can get better sleep.  Desktop animations continually wake
> > it up, so your plain desktop *is* friendlier, and it will be more
> > so soon.
> >
> > I think this has partly been spurred on by the OLPC project, whose
> > laptop is supposed to go completely to sleep between keystrokes.
>
> i was fortunate enough to get a close look at one of these machines
> recently and was really impressed. at US200.00 (coming soon to a
> developed country near you) i'll be buying one.
>
> if camping and hacking should ever find themselves together..
>
> cheers,
>
> julian
>
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