..on or around Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 01:15:22AM +0000, Damian Stewart said: > Julian Oliver wrote: >> [snip] >> >> really you only have a handful of strategies. here is my ordering of >> them: >> 1/ marry someone with an EU passport you both love and love living >> with. as soon as the marriage is recognised in both countries you >> have the right of residency. permanent citizenship is usually >> automatically granted in 2-3 years. > > 1/ of course being the option that is the most difficult to arrange > reliably ;-)
yes, any HOWTOs i've seen look particularly suspicious ;) > >> most Kiwis hide in friendly cities like Berlin and pop out of the >> Schengen states into a country like Switzerland to buy another 3 >> months stay-credit when they need to. that works very reliably: >> while non-sensical it does work on paper - which is where it counts >> in a queue at passport control. poor cities (like Berlin) are better >> to these ends as they care only that you don't become an economic >> burden. bring in money and they'll often let it go if you're from a >> 'western' country, preferably white and don't look totally broke. > > actually my understanding of how Schengen's 90/180 rule operates is that, > at least since the last three or four years, for this strategy to work > you'd have to stay in Switzerland for 90 days before going back.. in fact > as I understand it it's precisely to avoid this kind of visa run that they > implemented the 90/180 rule in the first place. technically yes, although in practice it doesn't work this way. at passport control they still just look for whether you've left the Schengen states in the last 3 months and grant you your stay accordingly. this has worked for me many times, Switzerland included. it seems to me they only pull up the 90/180 rule if they want to ask you other kinds of questions. the U.K - which has gone border bonkers in recent years - is perhaps a different case; there it seems you're overstaying until proven otherwise. Kiwis have little or no 'Commonwealth credit' there anymore; you'd probably have just as much luck with a Serbian passport. > >> if you feel drawn to the great many opportunities afforded by being an >> artist in the EU but: can't bear the creeping anxiety born of border >> improvisations, shudder at the thought of marriage (in and out of love), >> don't want to step back into a UNI or yield as a contract artist-hand, >> then yes, you're far better off trying to make it work back in NZ in my >> opinion. > > i certainly don't mind being a contract artist-hand. it's doing so with the > ability to legally live somewhere permanently when i'm not, is what i'm > trying to sort out. i don't think that will come so easily TBH. there will always be improvisation involved when taking intermittent contract work. for what it's worth, i have yet to hear of anyone that's 'clean' getting kicked out of the EU for overstaying a few months. again, they only care when you become an economic burden or appear to be engaged in suspicious activity. i know people that have overstayed their visas in just one country for several years. that is far from advice, of course ;) in my experience it's not border control that's the problem, but the inability to be able to settle in a country without a tax number and residency status. things like taking a lease, a course at a uni or borrowing a book from the library come to mind. > >> i 'winged it' here before aquiring residency status for several years. >> the feeling of not being settled becomes a difficult and compromising >> psychological force and one that will only eat at your practice in time. > > yeah, i know. i have times where i just can't stand it. i was close to > buying a flight back to NZ this morning. aargh. > yep, it can get pretty rough. aside from future fear you have little or nothing to worry about while actually in Portugal though. crossing over into Spain by car or train is trouble-free too if there's work here for you.. cheers, -- julian oliver http://julianoliver.com http://selectparks.net messages containing HTML will not be read. _______________________________________________ Ada_list mailing list [email protected] http://aotearoadigitalarts.org.nz/
