On 6/9/2015 7:19 PM, Vladimir Andreev wrote:
>> help the last /8 pool become even larger
> 
> It's not true. There is still possibility to open multiple LIR's for the same 
> person (legal or natural, no matter) and then merge them all together.
> 
> So this proposal (by itself) is not able to prevent /8 exhaustion

Puting an obstacle will probably reduce the "hoarding" so it would
probably grow a little more than without this.
> 
>> The only reason that I would sustain it for is the fact that I'm aware
>> of some russians taking advantage and making a profit but I'm also aware
>> that's just a small crumble and it won't affect our bread.
> 
> Please abstain from national attacks. It's bad style of discussion.
As a RIPE community member I don't have anything against russians. I
would not call "hoarding" what happens today with the last /8 but here
is the statistics.

+--------------------------------------------------------------+------+
| seller                                                       | /22s |
+--------------------------------------------------------------+------+
| Bulgakov Aleksey Yurievich                                   |   31 |
| QuickSoft LLC                                                |   30 |
| Julian Alberto Gomez Hernandez trading as "Adjenet Networks" |    5 |
| Abdulrahman Nassir Alahmari trading as SABAH                 |    4 |
| Al Safwa Al Saudia for Development Ltd                       |    2 |
+--------------------------------------------------------------+------+

Theese are the only persons/businesses that sold more than 1 x /22 from
the last /8.

It's obviously that the whole discussion started after noticing the
activity of the top 2, who happens to be from Russia.

Ciprian




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