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Dear Aled,
dear all,

On 13/06/2016 17:29, Aled Morris wrote:
> On 13 June 2016 at 16:15, Sylvain Vallerot <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>     I agree with this : remaining IPs are not intended to be used as we used 
>> to.
>>     But they are still meant to be distributed to end users, aren't they ?
> 
> RIPE-649 "IPv4 Address Allocation and Assignment Policies for the RIPE NCC 
> Service Region"
>     Section 5.1 Allocations made by the RIPE NCC to LIRs
>     3. The LIR must confirm it will make assignment(s) from the allocation. 
>     ...
> 
> It doesn't say who these assignments are to, they could be to the LIR
> itself for their own use (as it will be in the case of end-users who
> have become LIRs purely to obtain some "psuedo-PI" address space.)

LIRs being (quite likely) End Users, this is fine.

But we definitely cannot assume that all End Users are LIRs,
nor make a policy take it for granted.

Put in another words we cannot have a policy say that an End User
needs to be a LIR to have a chance to get access to the ressource.

Allowing future End Users to have a tiny bit of IPv4 to bootstrap
means allowing *End Users*, not just those that are LIRs. Right ?

I would appreciate a confirmation from the "sitting-ones" that my 
understanding of the spirit of the last /8 policy is correct on
this point because I sometimes doubt it when reading things like 
proposal 2013-03.

Best regards,
Sylvain
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