Patrick Velder пишет 04.08.2016 11:12:
Hi
Hello Ingrid
That means, if a resource holder (ASSIGNED PI within ALLOCATED PI) has
an "Independent Assignment Request and Maintenance Agreement" with the
LIR, like end users which got their assignment direct from RIPE NCC,
this assignment will become an assignment which is managed directly by
RIPE NCC?
Best regards
Patrick
My LIR have got ALLOCATED PI and ALLOCATED UNSPECIFIED blocks about
20 years ago, according to those days policy. Some part of address space
was not aggregated and was used as "ASSIGNED PI within ALLOCATED PI",
all of them have agreement with the LIR, which also was within the
policy, at least not against. Why should we change anything here? Just
because some LIRs lost their control over 50% of the address space
allocated to them? Perhaps there are some other ways to restore it?
With respect,
*Larisa Yurkina*
RosNIIROS
Internet Number Resources Group / Chief Manager
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> / www.ripn.net
<http://www.ripn.net>
Т.: +7 495 737-0604
On 04.08.2016 09:39, Ingrid Wijte wrote:
Dear colleagues,
During RIPE 72, the RIPE NCC was asked to suggest a way forward with
regards to the unclear situation arising from address blocks in the
RIPE Database with the status ALLOCATED PI or ALLOCATED UNSPECIFIED.
We want to give you an update on this work and ask for your input.
BACKGROUND
Although PI assignments made by LIRs have the same status in the RIPE
Database, it is not clear if resource holders with assignments from
LIRs have the same rights as resource holders with those issued by
the RIPE NCC. The community, mainly End Users, has asked the RIPE NCC
to clarify the situation.
In the early days of the RIPE NCC, a small number of LIRs received
allocations with the status ALLOCATED PI or ALLOCATED UNSPECIFIED.
From these address blocks, LIRs could assign ranges with the status
ASSIGNED PI.
The RIPE community later decided that the RIPE NCC should be the only
party assigning ranges with ASSIGNED PI to End Users. It was not
clear what the status of the assignments that had already been made
should be.
ACTION TAKEN
At RIPE 71, the Address Policy Working Group asked the RIPE NCC to
check the actual assignment status with the holders of these
allocations. We contacted all of the LIRs involved and around 50%
said they had no contact with holders of assignments with the status
ASSIGNED PI within their allocations. Several allocations containing
only PA assignments were converted from ALLOCATED UNSPECIFIED to
ALLOCATED PA following communication with LIRs.
The RIPE NCC presented these results to the Address Policy Working
Group at RIPE 72. The WG stressed that data accuracy must have the
highest priority. It was further suggested that the RIPE NCC should
follow up with the LIRs on a case-by-case basis, following the
principles outlined below.
The WG agreed that, where the LIR can document a mutual agreement
that they administer the address space, a conversion from PI to PA
should take place. In all other cases, assignments with the status
ASSIGNED PI should be treated as being assigned by the RIPE NCC.
It was also stated that LIRs should not register any new assignments
with the status ASSIGNED PI, as policy no longer allows for new IPv4
PI assignments (with the exception of IXP PI assignments from our
reserved address pool).
APPROACH
The RIPE NCC will contact the 38 LIRs holding allocations that
contain address blocks with the status ASSIGNED PI (3,600 inetnum
objects in total).
In the following months, these LIRs will check if their RIPE Database
entries are still correct. Each LIR will check their records and with
their customers to see under what conditions the assignments were
originally provided.
After the LIRs have finished their research, the RIPE NCC will:
- Convert assignments to ASSIGNED PA if it can be documented that
the administrative responsibility lies with the LIR
- Follow up directly with resource holders of ASSIGNED PI to apply
the RIPE policy, “Contractual Requirements for Provider Independent
Resource Holders in the RIPE NCC Service Region”. The PI assignments
will become part of the address space managed by the RIPE NCC just
like all other PI space. Once the resource holders have fulfilled the
contractual requirements, they will have the same rights and
obligations as any other End User of PI space.
- Split the allocations to separate the PI assignments and convert
the blocks that remain with an LIR to ALLOCATED PA.
We suggest giving these LIRs until the end of January 2017 to clarify
the status of the assignments within their ALLOCATED PI/UNSPECIFIED
allocations.
In situations where a dispute arises between the LIR and the
assignment holder about the administrative responsibility, the RIPE
NCC will do its best to support a fair solution.
We welcome your feedback on this suggested approach. Please provide
your input before 12 September 2016.
Kind regards,
Ingrid Wijte
Assistant Manager Registration Services
RIPE NCC
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