Hi, On Thu, Aug 04, 2016 at 08:12:56PM +0900, Randy Bush wrote: > i am perennially confused by the different colors of integers. as you > know, i prefer magenta and comic sans.
Not all prefixes belong to Rüdiger, so, magenta is out...
> ingrid/ncc can you explain in terms an antique router geek can
> understand what the actual pragmatic effect would be on these PI/PA
> holders? does it alter holders' rights? costs? processes? ...
Right now, there are two different shades of "PI colour" - "real PI"
and "not really real PI". The first shade has the full obligations
and protection of 2007-01 - namely, a contractual relationship (via a
sponsoring LIR) with the NCC that clearly identifies who has "rights"
to that prefix. The other shade is also labeled "PI", but whether or
not contracts exist, and who is the legitimate holder, is less well
defined.
This proposal aims to unify all PI into one colour, which I think is
good for the resource holders (no uncertainity) - but there is potential
fallout, like "we've been doing IPv4 PI assignments all the years, and
nobody bothered!" - which technically could be done from "ALLOCATED
UNSPECIFIED" blocks, but was always outside RIPE policies - and if
these are now properly labeled and tagged, certain business practices
might no longer be possible.
Also, it might lead to deaggs (Markus' case) where a /14 that was
originally "in one LIR" would be "3x /16, plus some smaller fragments
in the LIR" and "lots of /24 PI managed by the NCC" now - so the /14
won't get a ROA, and he'll have to announce more-specifics.
There is no "truly nice" solution to this. It's swampy space that
will smell when you try to clean it up (but some people insist that
parts of that swamp is *theirs* and want all the titles that come
with that...).
So, to answer your question: for those "swampy PI", it would alter
their rights (contracts according to 2007-01), costs (50 EUR/year),
processes (sponsoring LIR, instead of "no clear process"). Quite some
change.
Gert Doering
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