Hi Jordi,

what is the problem you want to solve? 

Is the ‘IPv6 stockpiling’ creating any issues?

As far as I know, we have plenty of IPv6 available and by forcing return or 
imposing conditions on mergers/transfers you only create hurdles for the people 
that actually use IPv6.

I’d say this is a non problem and actually advise RIPE NCC RS to stop 
tracking/presenting on this unless this issue causes them complications in 
justifying additional allocation requests from the IANA.

Elvis 

Excuse the briefness of this mail, it was sent from a mobile device.

> On Oct 28, 2020, at 05:26, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via address-policy-wg 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sergey,
> 
> Note that I'm not intending to change anything on IPv4 ...
> 
> Regards,
> Jordi
> @jordipalet
> 
> 
> 
> El 28/10/20 13:20, "address-policy-wg en nombre de Sergey Myasoedov via 
> address-policy-wg" <[email protected] en nombre de 
> [email protected]> escribió:
> 
>    Hi Jordi,
> 
>> Otherwise, do you have other suggestions, or do you think the we should 
>> ignore the stockpiling?
> 
>    A 'stockpiling' on the obsoleted resource is a result of semi-free market. 
> Just let the IPv4 go, and market and technology will do the rest.
> 
>    And yes, I am the market player.
> 
>    --
>    Kind regards,
>    Sergey Myasoedov
> 
> 
>> On 28 Oct 2020, at 13:13, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via address-policy-wg 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Nick,
>> 
>> Could you explain why not?
>> 
>> Clearly it is something that should part of the NCC verification duties, but 
>> we have been told several times, in other policy proposals, that we need to 
>> make it explicit so they can "act".
>> 
>> Otherwise, do you have other suggestions, or do you think the we should 
>> ignore the stockpiling?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Jordi
>> @jordipalet
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> El 28/10/20 13:09, "address-policy-wg en nombre de Nick Hilliard" 
>> <[email protected] en nombre de [email protected]> escribió:
>> 
>>   JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via address-policy-wg wrote on 28/10/2020 12:05:
>>> However, in RIPE NCC, if you created several LIRs for getting more
>>> IPv4 allocations, *even if you don't use/need it* you can get (and
>>> thus stockpile) IPv6 *at no extra cost*.
>>   [...]
>>> Do we need some text about "recovery if not announced and used" ?
>> 
>>   tl;dr: no.
>> 
>>   Nick
>> 
>> 
>> 
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